Ye Olde Rocket Forum

Go Back   Ye Olde Rocket Forum > Work Bench > Scale & Sport Scale Rocketry
User Name
Password
Auctions Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts Search Mark Forums Read


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #11  
Old 10-04-2011, 12:27 PM
jharding58's Avatar
jharding58 jharding58 is offline
Master Modeler
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Kennesaw, GA
Posts: 1,936
Default

The Peanut Little Joe II documentation by George Gassaway (?) shows the unwrapped pattern as applied to the LES motor casing on the LJII. It is identical to the pattern on the HJ. I'll see if I can find the pdf when I return home.

In the case of the A-001 launch the pattern matches closely the HJ pattern. The omission of the two short bars was required by the presence of the cable tunnel on the LES motor casing. Also the Little Joe II maintained a consisten thickness in the band and stripes, whereas the Honest John seems to have the bands being 1/2 the width of the bars
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:  BPC_LES.gif
Views: 75
Size:  37.3 KB  
Attached Files
File Type: pdf honestjohnm50.pdf (19.6 KB, 54 views)
__________________
Gravity is a harsh mistress
SAM 002
NAR 91005
"The complexity of living is eminently favored to the simplicity of not."

Last edited by jharding58 : 10-04-2011 at 01:32 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 10-04-2011, 03:32 PM
stefanj stefanj is offline
Master Modeler
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Hillsboro, OR
Posts: 2,853
Default

Another thank-you.

When I was in Fifth Grade, maybe 1973, I bought a Centuri Honest John. I did a crap job on it. Never flew it, from what I remember. But the bulbous nose cone was one of the artifacts of my early rocketry years that survived the decades.

I recently bought parts to recreate the body and fins. Right now it's waiting for me to sand off the Fill n Finish, and maybe add the spin thrusters.

The red, white, and black bar paint job looks like just the thing to decorate it.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 10-04-2011, 07:30 PM
gpoehlein's Avatar
gpoehlein gpoehlein is offline
Paper Rocketeer
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Evansville, Indiana
Posts: 1,181
Default

Well given the data presented here and from my Rockets of the World, I've created a body tube wrap for the BT-50 Mini Honest John. The wrap is pretty close but may have to be tweaked a bit to fit properly on the BT-50 without a gap or overlap.But it should also be the right length as well.
Attached Files
File Type: pdf HJ Roll Pattern.pdf (233.9 KB, 78 views)
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 10-04-2011, 11:09 PM
hcmbanjo's Avatar
hcmbanjo hcmbanjo is offline
When Pigs Fly!
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 1,102
Default

Thanks Greg,
You've just saved me a lot of time!
In the next few days, I was going to draw up this White Sands paint pattern.
I appreciate the time you took to put it together.
__________________
Hans "Chris" Michielssen
Old/New NAR # 19086 SR

www.oddlrockets.com
www.modelrocketbuilding.blogspot.com
http://www.nar.org/educational-reso...ing-techniques/
Your results may vary
"Nose cones roll, be careful with that."
Every spaceman needs a ray gun.
Look out - I'm the Meister Shyster!
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 10-05-2011, 05:55 AM
gpoehlein's Avatar
gpoehlein gpoehlein is offline
Paper Rocketeer
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Evansville, Indiana
Posts: 1,181
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hcmbanjo
Thanks Greg,
You've just saved me a lot of time!
In the next few days, I was going to draw up this White Sands paint pattern.
I appreciate the time you took to put it together.


No problem, Chris - Time is something I definitely have a lot of right now (although I haven't really felt like building or designing up to now - the shoulder IS coming along nicely, so I will probably get back to building/designing in the next day or so). Th pattern was created in Illustrator 5 and ported out in PDF, so if you need to adjust it a bit for length or circumference, you should be able to open it in any graphics program that opens PDF files for edit.

Greg
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 10-05-2011, 01:32 PM
jharding58's Avatar
jharding58 jharding58 is offline
Master Modeler
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Kennesaw, GA
Posts: 1,936
Default

The final version.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:  DSC_9477.JPG
Views: 48
Size:  930.2 KB  
__________________
Gravity is a harsh mistress
SAM 002
NAR 91005
"The complexity of living is eminently favored to the simplicity of not."
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 10-05-2011, 03:34 PM
JumpJet's Avatar
JumpJet JumpJet is offline
Master Modeler
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Pueblo Colorado
Posts: 1,307
Default

PHP Code:
 Does anyone have a source for the full stripe style roll pattern


When I designed this model I originally was going to do the test round version but felt the one piece decal would get damaged on the model too easily so I went with the standard Army Green color.

I posted this PDF version some time ago. Make sure to print it out to full size.
I have included a jpg of the image as well.


John Boren
Estes R&D
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:  Test Round Roll Pattern.jpg
Views: 51
Size:  41.2 KB  
Attached Files
File Type: pdf Mini HONEST JOHN Test Version.pdf (10.9 KB, 156 views)
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 10-05-2011, 04:05 PM
jharding58's Avatar
jharding58 jharding58 is offline
Master Modeler
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Kennesaw, GA
Posts: 1,936
Default

Hey John,
Would there be any chance of adding the bands and stripe segments as individual elements? It isn't a huge decals as they go, and the current crop of Estes decals paper seems pretty robust. Not sure how fast this kit sells but perhaps added to a subsequent run? For us I think cutting sections of decals stripe is working quite well.
__________________
Gravity is a harsh mistress
SAM 002
NAR 91005
"The complexity of living is eminently favored to the simplicity of not."
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 10-05-2011, 04:33 PM
JumpJet's Avatar
JumpJet JumpJet is offline
Master Modeler
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Pueblo Colorado
Posts: 1,307
Default

Quote:
Would there be any chance of adding the bands and stripe segments as individual elements?



Most likely this isn't going to happen in a kit.

What you could do is use this image to cut out a piece of Frisket Film. Apply the film to the model, Paint the black parts, remove the film and then you don't have any decals to worry about.


John Boren
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 10-05-2011, 11:25 PM
blackshire's Avatar
blackshire blackshire is offline
Master Modeler
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Fairbanks, Alaska
Posts: 6,507
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JumpJet
Most likely this isn't going to happen in a kit.

What you could do is use this image to cut out a piece of Frisket Film. Apply the film to the model, Paint the black parts, remove the film and then you don't have any decals to worry about.


John Boren
Since the first production run of the Mini Honest John included the 'nervous lawyer-inspired' "U.S. MILITARY" decals instead of the correct "U.S. ARMY" decals, why not introduce a customizable "U.S. ARMY" & "White Sands"-style roll pattern decal set (preferably water-transfer) into subsequent production runs of this kit? Not only would this make the Mini Honest John an even more interesting and popular scale kit, it would also make the first-run kits with the "U.S. MILITARY" decals very collectible classic kits (for the same reason that incorrectly-printed stamps and mis-struck coins are collectible).
__________________
Black Shire--Draft horse in human form, model rocketeer, occasional mystic, and writer, see:
http://www.lulu.com/content/paperba...an-form/8075185
http://www.lulu.com/product/cd/what...of-2%29/6122050
http://www.lulu.com/product/cd/what...of-2%29/6126511
All of my book proceeds go to the Northcote Heavy Horse Centre www.northcotehorses.com.
NAR #54895 SR

Last edited by blackshire : 10-05-2011 at 11:26 PM. Reason: This ol' hoss done forgot somethin'.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:30 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.0.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Ye Olde Rocket Shoppe © 1998-2024