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Old 05-24-2011, 09:52 AM
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Just for comparison...

I like the looks of the 1a better.
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Just for comparison...

I like the looks of the 1a better.



That's an unfair comparison based on these images alone !
That 1a image is iconic, reminiscent of cold war propaganda images of that age --almost pop art. It is powerful, in comparison with the P2 image on the right. Try another one ( P 2 ) with more context in the background . I love the drawings side by side that's more keenly objective, and great drawings overall! Thanks Gordon! Ill definitely be chatting more later about a maxi brute scale H-power version. I'm going to RockSim a design ( or is that design and sim?) and see maybe where we get from there.
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Is this one any better?

I do like the test round colors better than the operational ones.
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The Pershing II was featured on the Time magazine cover titled "Nuclear Poker" back in the early 80's, and was also the missile that went through the bedroom floor in the movie "Weird Science".

I have played a lot of poker in numerous casinos and card rooms but never heard of this game...hold'em, omaha, razz, pineapple, crazy pineapple, ROTTEN pineapple, stud, and even draw games....never heard of "nuCUlar" poker though....what are the rules/objective/betting limits ? Any WILD Cards (other than dealer) ?
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Is this one any better?

I do like the test round colors better than the operational ones.



Much better pic. Its true , I am also often undecided between operational and test markings for various military scale subjects. I like the M104 patriot not in its customary test livery, but prefer the red oxide ( the jury is still out on the actual operational markings- as they are rarely published with clarity) tones.
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The Pershing II was featured on the Time magazine cover titled "Nuclear Poker" back in the early 80's, and was also the missile that went through the bedroom floor in the movie "Weird Science".

I have played a lot of poker in numerous casinos and card rooms but never heard of this game...hold'em, omaha, razz, pineapple, crazy pineapple, ROTTEN pineapple, stud, and even draw games....never heard of "nuCUlar" poker though....what are the rules/objective/betting limits ? Any WILD Cards (other than dealer) ?




Your'e right about the magazine cover, that must have scared the pants off the former Soviets.
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Your'e right about the magazine cover, that must have scared the pants of the former Soviets.


Raygun,

I go with the one that carries the more powerful nuclear warhead!

Shall we play a game - WOPR (WHOPPER), from the movie, 'War Games'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WOPR

Loved that movie of the 1980's!!!

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Raygun,

I go with the one that carries the more powerful nuclear warhead!

Shall we play a game - WOPR (WHOPPER), from the movie, 'War Games'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WOPR

Loved that movie of the 1980's!!!

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Of course, I know, yes the facts speak for themselves, but perception had proven to be more compelling. I cant help but feel that all those great missiles of the Cold War( HJ, Little J, Hawk, Pershing and others) invariably were not very accurate, and many batteries (as the picture of the 1A suggests) helped more as perceived threats than any of the technical achievements.
Ultimately in the end, SDI and MX didn't have to work in order to be useful either.
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Of course, I know, yes the facts speak for themselves, but perception had proven to be more compelling. I cant help but feel that all those great missiles of the Cold War( HJ, Little J, Hawk, Pershing and others) invariably were not very accurate, and many batteries (as the picture of the 1A suggests) helped more as perceived threats than any of the technical achievements.
Ultimately in the end, SDI and MX didn't have to work in order to be useful either.


Raygun,

The MX had a fault/bug in the second stage guidence and was fixed for a couple years after the missiles were installed

As for accuracy ... well with nukes you reallky don't have to be accurate just need to get the warhead in the 'general' area and the Electormagnetic Pulse alone would have brought tanks and aircraft to a standstill.

I personally feel that nukes exploded high in the atmospher, 10 - 15 miles, make more sense than surface detonations. Why capture land that is irradiated?

Jimmy Carter cancel America's Neutron Bomb... the Chinese and Russins have it ... makes more sense IMHO.

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And although I know that JumpJet disagrees with me, a Pershing II is waaay cooler than a IA. Plus that way you don't have to explain that "No, its not an Estes kit."

And a II is easier to paint-- Helicopter Green (FS79092) with black US ARMY: badda-bing, done.

I'm just sayin' . . . .

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