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Old 06-16-2006, 11:17 PM
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The Spartan kit (KD-3, Stellar product line) was a balsa fin version of the Screaming Eagle.

Back when Lee Piester was trying to start up a new rocket company (1987) called Enertek, one of the kits was to be a 2.5" diameter Screaming Eagle-like kit with a short boatail.

I managed to get it replaced with the INITIATOR!


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Old 06-16-2006, 11:56 PM
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Nice, especially when compared to mine. I'll see if I can post some pics later tonight. There's no hope for my Eagle, and no power since 2001.


Bill,

Did your Eagle come with a 12" or 16" chute? Was it black & yellow or red & white?
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Old 06-17-2006, 04:52 AM
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Bill,

Did your Eagle come with a 12" or 16" chute? Was it black & yellow or red & white?


Red & white and I believe it was 12".
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Old 06-17-2006, 08:15 AM
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I've already sent the Screamin Eagle stuff to Scott.

Yes, but I didn't get a drawing of the fins like Tim just sent.

Buzz, pull Tim's fin drawing out of this thread to include with Bill's scans that he sent us for this set. Give me an ACK when you read this. Thanks.
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Old 06-17-2006, 11:41 AM
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I stayed up all hours of the night last night looking through all the old Centuri catalogs at Ninfinger's. Why? Well, we all do it from time to time, but I did it because my Screaming Eagle just didn't look right to me.

It was obvious when I looked at the first pic. All the images show the upper roll pattern with a white background instead of silver. I looked at several other catalog shots to see if any looked like they had the silver backed roll pattern, but none really did. I don't know if they built a catalog model that way on purpose, or if the silver bleached out in the photos, or what.

At any rate, I think I'll build a paper and balsa clone with decals having a white background. My build list is already about 20 years long, but what the hey. It will be a bit of a pain to do the fin decals. I don't really like the results of white decal paper. Any dark background shows through the material. I'll probably mask off the proper size area and leave that white when I paint the fin area, then put the decal over it.
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...I think I'll build a paper and balsa clone...


I also worked up the balsa and paper version, but I think you're going to be disappointed in the performance...

All of the deployment velocities are above 23 FPS...
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I tried to match up the closest components from SEMROC, then converted them to plastic equivalents. This file may be off just a bit in weights, but I think it's close enough to work. [snip]
Nicely done, Craig!


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As you can see, this bird has a wicked mid-power deployment issue. At the low and high ends, however, the deployment velocities are within acceptable limits, and are actually quite low. Using plastic components instead of balsa, the stability margin with the C6-7 is 1.10, safely above the 1.00 minimum limit. With balsa, it was down to 0.87...
Two words: "Nose weight." (Oh, wait, if I read further down the thread, I see you already thought of that. )

I remember being especially amused when I read in the rocket's original instructions, "Even though the Screaming Eagle doesn't pass the swing test, this design is still quite stable."

IIRC, I lost my "SE" to a Rocket-Eating Cornfield on a C6-5. Come to think of it, the wind was blowing at a pretty good clip that day, too...


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Old 06-19-2006, 07:23 AM
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Yes, but I didn't get a drawing of the fins like Tim just sent.

Buzz, pull Tim's fin drawing out of this thread to include with Bill's scans that he sent us for this set. Give me an ACK when you read this. Thanks.


Actually, if Tim could scan the plans that would be great. Sorry Bill, but your plans have some major stains on them and I've had a hard time cleaning them up. Tim's plans appear to be mint condition.
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Old 06-19-2006, 08:36 AM
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The plans that came with the kit were for the Powr Pad. The Screaming Eagle plans were missing. The Eagle plans and fin template are available at JimZ's website.
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Old 06-19-2006, 08:53 AM
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Powr Pad will do then if it's not too much trouble.
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