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02-10-2010, 02:41 AM
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Imaginary Kit Releases
This is STRICTLY UNOFFICIAL!
   I'm playing "make believe," and I've been wondering *IF* I ever decided to release another one of my designs as a kit... which one it should be. I've assembled 3 different lists: 1) Originals (which I'd seriously consider), 2) Possibilities (which would need some minor tweaking), and 3) Variations (which are my "takes" on other designs, and I probably *wouldn't* release them at all). If you'd like to play along, I'll set up a poll so you can vote. I'm also thinking that the design in question needs to be able to be upscaled ~175% for an SLS-type version, as well. Again, THIS IS ALL STRICTLY SPECULATION!!! (So I don't wanna hear anybody griping about "Vaporware" that doesn't materialize.) I'm just doing (niche) market research, and that's all at this point. The lists will follow. Thanks for your consideration! 
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02-10-2010, 02:52 AM
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Variations
VARIATIONS:
Argo-C (variation on James Pierson's "Space Argosy") http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showp...4&postcount=127 Carrier Wave http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showp...0&postcount=197 Carrier Wave Jr. http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showp...9&postcount=196 Century 24.5 http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showp...4&postcount=617 Guerrero (Babylon 5 "Drakh raider" variation) http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showp...3&postcount=180 Mars Voyager http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showp...2&postcount=136 Needler http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showthread.php?t=5169 Perpetrator http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showthread.php?t=4830 Perpetrator 1.41X http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showp...261&postcount=5 Vaquero http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showthread.php?t=4858 .
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Jay Goemmer "Centuri Guy"/"Tau Zero" YORF Member 28 Semroc SAM #0029 NAR 86131 "I think about organizing things all the time. Never seems to happen. I find something that piques my interest and I'm off on a quest. Or a Centuri. "--Bill Eichelberger, 02/22/2022 “Centuri fret buzz in an updated form.” Bill “Wallyum” Eichelberger re: Estes Flutter-By 03 Sept 2014
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02-11-2010, 09:40 AM
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Oopsie!
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Thanks for catching that!   All fixed now! .
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Jay Goemmer "Centuri Guy"/"Tau Zero" YORF Member 28 Semroc SAM #0029 NAR 86131 "I think about organizing things all the time. Never seems to happen. I find something that piques my interest and I'm off on a quest. Or a Centuri. "--Bill Eichelberger, 02/22/2022 “Centuri fret buzz in an updated form.” Bill “Wallyum” Eichelberger re: Estes Flutter-By 03 Sept 2014
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02-11-2010, 08:54 PM
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Jay, I just came across your Perpetrator design for the first time; I didn't see it last March when you posted it. I agree with Steve Naquin - its a Novatrator! (Or maybe an Orbitrator.) I can clearly envision George Roos creating this very design sometime in 1967 or '68. But really, ST-7/ST-8, eventually upscaled to ST-10/ST-13? Neither combination would have ever been done at FSI. They didn't start using a 0.756" diameter tube (RT-6) until around 1990, and they never used a 1" tube. If this had been designed by George Roos when he owned the company, it would have used RT-8 and RT-10 (equivalent to ST-8F and ST-11). If it had been designed by Lonnie Reese and released in 1974 or thereafter, it would have used RT-12 and RT-15 (equivalent to ST-13 and ST-16). Also, post-1974, it would have had a solid balsa transition, with the upper section serving as a payload section and the recovery system being deployed out of the lower section as in your first version. IOW, it would have been a Penetreos (or an Eostrator).
Anyway, I like it! (But I'm sure that you must have already anticipated that! ) Lately I have been thinking about creating an imaginary series of "FSI designs that were never produced." (Notice that I said "designs" not "kits," so no jokes, please. ) You have already come up with one!  MarkII
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02-11-2010, 11:00 PM
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"When Worlds Collide..."
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Think of the FSI Penetrator colliding with the Centuri Excalibur. (I'm sure you've seen my ~1.37X Excalibur ST-10/13 upscale elsewhere on this forum. )Quote:
Glad you like it! Thanks for playing! Cheers,
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Jay Goemmer "Centuri Guy"/"Tau Zero" YORF Member 28 Semroc SAM #0029 NAR 86131 "I think about organizing things all the time. Never seems to happen. I find something that piques my interest and I'm off on a quest. Or a Centuri. "--Bill Eichelberger, 02/22/2022 “Centuri fret buzz in an updated form.” Bill “Wallyum” Eichelberger re: Estes Flutter-By 03 Sept 2014
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03-20-2020, 11:41 AM
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Babylon 5
Didn't know where else to put it. Being stuck in the house (watching B-5) and decided to do something different. Came up with a fin pattern for a BT-50.
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03-20-2020, 01:41 PM
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I vote for a MuTILator.
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