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Old 10-18-2008, 11:11 AM
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Just to mention, it will take sometime to get these motors going and into the system, I would suspect, by the time the kits start coming out, so will these motors.
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Old 10-18-2008, 11:21 AM
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I concur on the B14's. We're not going to see them unless someone figures out a safe way to make them. Any volunteers to drill out cores?

Great news on the new booster motors. Now I don't have to ration my existing supply.
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Old 10-18-2008, 11:24 AM
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I concur on the B14's. We're not going to see them unless someone figures out a safe way to make them. Any volunteers to drill out cores?

Great news on the new booster motors. Now I don't have to ration my existing supply.


There has to be a way to use some type of rubber mold that can form the core as the B14's
propellant is shaped automatically. Of course, I don't know exactly how those engines are
mass produced, but there has to be a way.....
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Old 10-18-2008, 11:31 AM
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Rocketguy and Solo ...

You guys just pegged the Geek Meter so hard it bent the needle.

But I agree completely -- loved the B14.
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Old 10-18-2008, 11:34 AM
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Rocketguy and Solo ...

You guys just pegged the Geek Meter so hard it bent the needle.

But I agree completely -- loved the B14.

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I concur on the B14's. We're not going to see them unless someone figures out a safe way to make them. Any volunteers to drill out cores?

Great news on the new booster motors. Now I don't have to ration my existing supply.

So does this become the new "Drill, Baby Drill!" issue?
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Old 10-18-2008, 11:44 AM
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There has to be a way to use some type of rubber mold that can form the core as the B14's
propellant is shaped automatically. Of course, I don't know exactly how those engines are
mass produced, but there has to be a way.....


At the pressures they use to press black powder, I don't think there's any possibility that you could get a deep-cored, mass-produced motor without breaking many parts in the machine so often that it would be economically a lost cause, and would be dangerous to boot. Doing it as a semi automated two-part process (pressed shallow core, drilled deep core) would only be marginally economical, and still pretty dangerous.

The later B14's were made without drilled cores. Their max thrust was about 2/3rds that of the drilled B14's, and they were just a little higher thrust than the eventual B8/C5 motors. It would still be good to see a higher thrust B or C motor in 18mm format.
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Old 10-18-2008, 01:53 PM
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At the pressures they use to press black powder, I don't think there's any possibility that you could get a deep-cored, mass-produced motor without breaking many parts in the machine so often that it would be economically a lost cause, and would be dangerous to boot. Doing it as a semi automated two-part process (pressed shallow core, drilled deep core) would only be marginally economical, and still pretty dangerous.

The later B14's were made without drilled cores. Their max thrust was about 2/3rds that of the drilled B14's, and they were just a little higher thrust than the eventual B8/C5 motors. It would still be good to see a higher thrust B or C motor in 18mm format.


I agree completely.

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Old 10-18-2008, 02:04 PM
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Remember to BUY LOTS OF THESE!

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