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Old 03-17-2022, 12:01 PM
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$30 per thousand. Sounds REALISTIC.
Exactly why I liked Carl's method of selling directly to hobbyists when he owned Semroc.
Kits were reasonably priced direct to us with no GARBAGE middleman markups.

Unfortunately, this wasnít the case here. We still paid the $1.00 per tube. Iím not sure what you mean about Carl s engines. They sold at same price as others. Maybe I missed something hereÖ.
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Wow, BT one inch longer, that's a big difference! Good to know. I wonder where Carl got his measurements from? Could there have been variations from kit to kit?

I have an original Bat-Rok from when I was a kid. It's missing the payload section and cone from when it had a separation at it's last launch in the early 70's. It floated away to the unknown. Anyhow, I gave Carl the length of my body tube and traced the fins for him. I had also sent him one of my Egg Crate fins which is where his template came from for that kit.
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I have an original Bat-Rok from when I was a kid. It's missing the payload section and cone from when it had a separation at it's last launch in the early 70's. It floated away to the unknown. Anyhow, I gave Carl the length of my body tube and traced the fins for him. I had also sent him one of my Egg Crate fins which is where his template came from for that kit.

Glad to hear this ! Especially to know where he got his info from. I have no idea where the discrepancies lie in. Still, mine is factory sealed and tube is 1Ē longer. Can you send pics ?
Also, can you send measurements of the tube length ?
Do you still have the instructions ? Iíd love a copy of theseÖ.. !
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My comment was more about Carl's direct sales of kits to hobbyists for VERY reasonable prices.
Have you looked at current kit pricing for "3rd generation" Semroc ?
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My comment was more about Carl's direct sales of kits to hobbyists for VERY reasonable prices.
Have you looked at current kit pricing for "3rd generation" Semroc ?



Yes, so true. There was only one Carl (sigh)
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Yes, so true. There was only one Carl (sigh)

Oh, ok. I get it. Since Iíve done most everything in rocketry, and Iím older too,,, Iím limiting what I do to the few vintage kits etc I can find. This last lot was luck. I have 5 more kits coming from that lot, then will get 3 more. Iím not up to date on Semroc as Iím unable to build or fly anymore. So I donít know whatís up with that anymore. I only have a small box of my favorite older ones in Semroc. Iím Just enjoying the old Estes and Centuri stuff I turn up. I Found a guy whoís selling off my other stuff, so Iím weeding that out as Iím able. I just have too much stuff. ThanksÖ..
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My comment was more about Carl's direct sales of kits to hobbyists for VERY reasonable prices.
Have you looked at current kit pricing for "3rd generation" Semroc ?

GH,
Unfortunately it is a very different world from when Carl owned Semroc.
Balsa prices have quadrupled and what is available is often really poor quality.
Tube quality available from the former Euclid has gotten so bad that much of what is being produced is unusable, even though the cost has gone WAY up.
Semroc has discontinued a huge number of kits and all but a very few, like the Mars Lander, will probably go away soon.
At current prices and quality, Randy is finding it VERY difficult to keep producing the line.
Wish it weren't so, but it is.

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Steve-
There are alternatives though.
3-D printing for cones (although I prefer balsa) and use of thinner basswood for fin stock are two possibilities.
Although I realize times are far different when Carl relaunched Semroc in the early 2000's, I think he would have found innovative ways to keep most of his kits alive without astronomical price increases.
Estes continues to have quality tubes. Did they dump Euclid ?
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Steve-
There are alternatives though.
3-D printing for cones (although I prefer balsa) and use of thinner basswood for fin stock are two possibilities.
Although I realize times are far different when Carl relaunched Semroc in the early 2000's, I think he would have found innovative ways to keep most of his kits alive without astronomical price increases.
Estes continues to have quality tubes. Did they dump Euclid ?
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Yeah, I agree. Carl was constantly innovating everything. Me,,, Iím just an old school guy who likes old school rockets. And staying about where Iím atÖ. Tho I do like a lot of the new ways of doing things .
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