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Old 07-24-2021, 05:43 PM
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I think they meant the "new" B size as at that time, the B was only 50% more power than A . They did make a C motor by '64, but it was a booster only, because of the small bore of the casings of the time. It put out only about 6 ns. They could only put a delay and ejection charge in them once they built the second generation Mabels that used the 1/2" bore casings.

The A motors of the time were about 10-20% more powerful than our A's. The B's were a bit punchier too. The NAR power categories were adjusted once the metric system was adopted in 1968.


Speaking of which....

Scanned this just a week or two ago out an old Astron Delta (Camroc booster vehicle) kit. I've had the Centuri version of this, but had never seen the Estes version of this conversion chart.

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Old 07-24-2021, 07:45 PM
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I remember the BT-40 was the Estes Engine mailing tube and that the NC-40 cones fit those so you could make rockets from those tubes using commercial parts.

The BT-40 was smaller in diameter and had a thinner wall than the old Estes Engine Mailing Tubes. The Engine Mailing did have its own nose cone the BNC-MTD, but a BT-40 nose cone would just slide through a mailing tube. Semroc actually has BT-40 in stock, if you don't believe me.
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Old 07-24-2021, 10:46 PM
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I have a rubber (possibly vinyl) bt-40 nosecone part no. 631-PNC-40H listed in the 1963 Estes Catalog, it may be from model missiles, see nosecone F here: Ninfinger 63Estes Nosecones.

I noticed Gus had one in this post:https://www.oldrocketforum.com/show...058&postcount=5

I think Estes bought out the remaining items from Model Missiles thus the BT-40 nosecones. As far as I know MM never made a rocket for this one so it is a mystery. There is a little slip of paper rolled up inside with directions about how to make a shockcord mount by punching holes in the shoulder and looping a string through. Does anyone have any additional information?



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Old 07-25-2021, 02:05 AM
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I wonder where I can get one of those spin units...


I've got one of those (as well as the rubber nose cone) around here somewhere.
How bad to you want it?
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Please me know if you are willing to sell it and maybe we can work something out.
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I wonder where I can get one of those spin units...


I think it's still a commonly available fireworks part.
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Old 07-25-2021, 12:19 PM
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If anyone has one they'd part with, I'd love to have one of the long vinyl "MMI Aerobee" nosecones.
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When I was JUST starting out in rocketry, I FOUND one of those silver spin fin units on a beach after the Fourth of July!

It was silver, slightly soft (like firework cone material) and had a burned split down the middle.

I recognized it from a plan in the Plan Book, and built a rocket for it with a hand rolled tube.

I would love to be able to get my hands on those old parts. Build me some Dirty Birds and such.
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Please me know if you are willing to sell it and maybe we can work something out.

Let me see if I can find it first...
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I would love to be able to get my hands on those old parts. Build me some Dirty Birds and such.


https://www.pyrocreations.com/Black-rocket-fins

https://www.myminifactory.com/objec...s-fin-set-58069

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2417942


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