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Old 11-18-2018, 01:04 AM
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The injection molded fins are direct replacements for the old vacuum formed ones. Once the two halves of the fin are bonded together you glue it in place just like before.


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Old 11-18-2018, 07:43 AM
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The injection molded fins are direct replacements for the old vacuum formed ones. John Boren



That's great, John! A much needed improvement; the vacu-form stuff was just sad.

We're glad to see it will be available in plenty of time to be ready next July. And the fin size is fine.

Now that we have 12 grand kids and only 8 of the 2001 kits in the closet we'll probably get 3-4 more so they all have one for when they're ready to build their own. Maybe one day we'll have a Saturn V drag race with all of them.

Can you imagine a dozen clustered Saturn V's lifting off together?

Tell the folks at Estes, thanks for doing this!

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Old 11-18-2018, 08:15 AM
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Read the description of the kit on the Estes Web Site.


Pertinent info:

"lifts off to about 350 feet on a E30-4 composite motor."

Meaning it's still a 24mm mount.


"We have updated every plastic part in this kit and you won't be disappointed! Accurate Apollo II body wraps, detailed blow molded transition, easier to assemble escape tower, injection molded fins and highly detailed removable display nozzles that doubles as a stand. "

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Old 11-18-2018, 09:37 AM
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I bought a set of the injection-molded plastic fins.

They have "open" root edges, meaning it should be easy to fit in a balsa tab for through-the-wall fin mounting.
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Old 11-18-2018, 09:57 AM
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They are already through the wall (shroud). My old Centuri model is pretty stout using the old style blow molded fins through the shrouds. It's a lot stronger than my #2001 balsa and paper version. Injection fins through the shroud and butted against the wrap using real plastic cement (not Testor's orange tubes) should easily be strong enough for any motor you can stuff back there and still have a stable flight.
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Old 11-18-2018, 02:09 PM
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Now that we have 12 grand kids and only 8 of the 2001 kits in the closet we'll probably get 3-4 more so they all have one for when they're ready to build their own. Maybe one day we'll have a Saturn V drag race with all of them.

Can you imagine a dozen clustered Saturn V's lifting off together?

Randy


Randy,

I have a 2001 still in the box (in addition to a 2157 I’m building, plus several more in storage).
I suppose I could help you out at some point in the future. I’ll hold off building it ... as if that’s likely, based on me buying it when they first came out.
In my defense, though, my Der Saturn Max is an old 2001 that was damaged, so I did build one of them.

With all the upgrades for the 1969, I do wonder whether I’ll ever build my other 2157 kits.
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> my Der Saturn Max is an old 2001


If we ever launch 12 we can put your Red Saturn in the center.


>With all the upgrades for the 1969, I do wonder whether I’ll ever build my other 2157 kits.

Kit bash them! We thought about that but haven't decided exactly what configuration to go with.


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> my Der Saturn Max is an old 2001


If we ever launch 12 we can put your Red Saturn in the center.


>With all the upgrades for the 1969, I do wonder whether I’ll ever build my other 2157 kits.

Kit bash them! We thought about that but haven't decided exactly what configuration to go with.


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Randy,

Flying that many Saturns with you and Verna would be fun.

And I’ve been thinking that one of the 2157s should be built as a Skylab version.
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Randy,

Flying that many Saturns with you and Verna would be fun.

And I’ve been thinking that one of the 2157s should be built as a Skylab version.


If you decide to do it before you build (as opposed to a post flight repair) with just a little balsa and a few other parts (motor mount, recovery stuff), you can build a 1/100th Little Joe II.
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If you decide to do it before you build (as opposed to a post flight repair) with just a little balsa and a few other parts (motor mount, recovery stuff), you can build a 1/100th Little Joe II.


That’s a great idea! I do have the 1/100 Little Joe II Kit, but those are hard to find, and having a backup would be nice.
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