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Old 05-19-2020, 07:32 AM
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Developmental static test today of a new 18mm diameter C15-8W Q-Jet™ motor. We announced the White Lightning™ Q-Jets at NARCON in Tucson in early March. This motor will be as close to 10.0 N-sec total impulse as possible. A 'D'-impulse version (a D20W) in the same 18mm casing has also been tested at ~14 N-sec. Final delay tests and submittal for certification will be completed soon!
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Old 05-19-2020, 08:44 AM
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Are there any plans for longer casing versions for full D and mid E motors? Thanks. Congrats.

On a related note does AT have a slower burning propellant that would provide similar or slightly lower average thrust levels in extended motors and incidentally allow similar throats to be used?
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Old 05-19-2020, 12:17 PM
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We're not yet ready to discuss plans for products not already announced.

Yes to the second question.

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Are there any plans for longer casing versions for full D and mid E motors? Thanks. Congrats.

On a related note does AT have a slower burning propellant that would provide similar or slightly lower average thrust levels in extended motors and incidentally allow similar throats to be used?
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Sounds interesting.
New 18mm SU choices are always a good thing.
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Sounds interesting.
New 18mm SU choices are always a good thing.


This is very interesting. I REALLY like the existing C12s but having more choices is a good thing, as GH just noted.

I can think of a bunch of models that would work great on a projected C15-6W.
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Old 05-19-2020, 01:58 PM
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Turns out that some customers apparently do not care much for the Black Max propellant exhaust effects. The White Lightning exhaust should be at least as exciting as black powder.

The motors will weigh slightly less, since WL has a higher Isp and lower density.

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This is very interesting. I REALLY like the existing C12s but having more choices is a good thing, as GH just noted.

I can think of a bunch of models that would work great on a projected C15-6W.
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I'm OK with the smoky exhaust (I also like CTI Smoky Sams). But it does get GSE dirty.

And for the C12s in particular, the extra performance over an Estes C6, especially for, but not limited to, heavier models is very satisfying and certainly seems to be more than one would expect from going from 8.8 N-s (Estes C6) to 9.8 N-s (Q-Jet C12).

On the other hand, White Lightning has a reputation for being difficult to light and for that to get worse as is it ages. Is this formulation of White Lightning more resistant to this? This is why I had mixed feelings when I heard about White Lightning Q-Jets.

I know I have personally been more frustrated getting the SU D10s lit than just about any other composite I have flown.
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This WL variant is easier to ignite, very similar to Black Max.

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I'm OK with the smoky exhaust (I also like CTI Smoky Sams). But it does get GSE dirty.

And for the C12s in particular, the extra performance over an Estes C6, especially for, but not limited to, heavier models is very satisfying and certainly seems to be more than one would expect from going from 8.8 N-s (Estes C6) to 9.8 N-s (Q-Jet C12).

On the other hand, White Lightning has a reputation for being difficult to light and for that to get worse as is it ages. Is this formulation of White Lightning more resistant to this? This is why I had mixed feelings when I heard about White Lightning Q-Jets.

I know I have personally been more frustrated getting the SU D10s lit than just about any other composite I have flown.
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Thanks for the posts to this thread Gary. Your positive responses to my inquiry are quite promising for "unannounced products".
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This WL variant is easier to ignite, very similar to Black Max.


Sounds good. I look forward to giving some of these Q-Jet-Ws a try when then are available.
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