I think that's something we're going to address here in the Studio. Since we use SEMROC components most of the time (well, I do anyway... ), we do need a set of files to cover all of those parts. The biggest issue is the turned balsa parts, as there are literally hundreds of them.

This may become our January project, working up the entire (current) SEMROC parts list into RockSim database files. Stay close, as these may be done in small batches and posted here over a few weeks.

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Here's the first batch of balsa components -- the Series 5 nose cones.

Only BC-523 could not be included in this list. It will require a special "subassembly" file to use in your designs. I'll try to get those worked up later.

Place this file into the "DataImport" folder, then run RockSim. The file will be appended automatically to the existing database.

Note: When each section is posted, it will have the same name as the master database file. Do not change the name!

BIG ADDENDUM!
DO NOT USE THIS FILE. IT CONTAINS AN ERROR IN ONE OF THE FIELDS. USE THE NEW FILE POSTED IN THE FOLLOW-UP MESSAGE.

Attached Files

NCDATA.csv (1.9 KB, 67 views)

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OK, the first CSV file had a slight bug. I'll tell you about it now, and you'll maybe understand where a data error may still exist, but which I think we can live with for now.

In the column "CG Loc", or CG Location, the first post had an incorrect location for every entry. Please note I am guesstimating the location as 71% of the total length, including the shoulder. This may not be fully accurate, but I think it will be close enough to the real position as to not be excessively noticeable. Well, I forgot to add the shoulder length to the cone length. Doh!

The new file, below, has been corrected. Also, the file name shows which series you will be installing. When you save this file to the "DataImport" folder, be sure to rename it "NCDATA.CSV", otherwise it will not install correctly.

Sorry!

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NCDATA_Series 5.csv (1.9 KB, 71 views)

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(innocent voice) "Yeah, I have *no* idea where you could possibly find one of those. I guess you'd have to be some kind of Pioneer "


Craig, the last I knew, Rocksim (8) wouldn't allow nose cones to be subassemblies. Has that changed in RS9?


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Bill “Wallyum” Eichelberger re: Estes Flutter-By
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Jay,

Aaaakkkk! Spuuuttt...

You're right! We still can't do a nose cone in the Subassemblies. But, we might be able to save the created NC as a regular RKT file, and then use that to create the rest of the design.

Maybe one day...

And if you were the one to download the NCDATA.CSV file from the first post, DON'T INSTALL IT!!!!! See the follow-up post.

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OK, folks, here's the next group. This contains all except three Series 7 nose cones, which are too wild for RockSim to be able to generate from a single entry. As Jay reminded me, we have to hand-craft these cones each time we want to use them. What I'll try to do is work all of these up into RKT files, from which you can pull the parts out and use them in other works.

Remember, rename this file to NCDATA.CSV before running RockSim. You can only add one batch at a time, too.

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NCDATA_Series 7.csv (2.8 KB, 74 views)

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Nope, wasn't me. I haven't been able to figure out how to make that work correctly.

And Version 9 is my *third* version of RockSim!


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Bill “Wallyum” Eichelberger re: Estes Flutter-By
03 Sept 2014

Craig - this sounds like a great idea! I tried to reply earlier from my handheld device, but it wouldn't submit my reply. If each of the participants took a section of parts, we could get through pretty quickly. They could be posted here for review and then added to the master part files. With these parts we could tackle other components such as engine mounts and complex nose cones as sub-assemblies. I'm in to help with the effort. Consistent part files will be a great benefit to the design cause.

I have some available web space if needed to post the part files and sub-assemblies some place in addition to the forum.

Any selection of parts you interested in us working on first?

... Bill

Edit: Just saw the posts regarding inability to make nose cones as sub-assemblies and learned something new.

Well here is my first contribution to the parts database collaboration efforts. I followed Craig's lead and used 71% for approximate CG location. This file includes all Semroc series 10 and 11 balsa cones except:

BC-1020 Spherical
BC-1038 Special
BC-1043 Double Cone


Please review and let me know how the parts look. If they look ok, I'll continue to develop additional entries.

... Bill

Edit: Based on Craig's recommendation, I changed Rounded Ogive shaped cones to Elliptical. Attached parts file has been updated accordingly.

Attached Files

NCDATA_Series 10 and 11.csv (1.8 KB, 66 views)

I hate to ask a dumb question, but what is the secret to get these files into RS (I have version 8)?

I am running Windows XP
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Les

OK - spent some more time trying this. If I right click the file, then do a Save As (using the CSV format) it seems to work. Is there an easier way?