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Old 06-12-2020, 09:58 AM
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Oooh thanks, I loved that G80FWL, still have one from Magnum, and an E30FWL also. These should be great, the flame in the test video looks great.
I remember those G80FWL. I think you could buy ten from Ross at Magnum for $100 or something like that. Excellent motors!
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To update our progress on this project, we tested the delays for the C and D White Lightning Q-jets today and they were all within spec, with no failures or anomalies. The next step is to build the motors for certification and submit to the testing organization.
Can’t wait to try a few out Gary. Thanks for the update.
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Old 06-12-2020, 03:04 PM
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Gary,
Any chance you will be making the G80-4 again?
I love that motor!

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Old 06-12-2020, 03:29 PM
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The only downside to these small motors is that the burn time is relatively short, like 0.7 seconds. Looking on the positive side they have great lifting capability!


Can’t wait to see what the thrust curves look like.
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I remember those G80FWL. I think you could buy ten from Ross at Magnum for $100 or something like that. Excellent motors!


Oh, yeah... I’ll have to go digging to see if I can find the 2 or 3 I have stashed in this mess .
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As you may remember, we dropped that delay in 2007 when the G80 was redesigned to produce 137 N-sec, which was a 42% increase in total impulse over the previous design. Because of the increased total impulse, heavier model rockets using the 4 second delay should now use the longer 7 second delay. I suppose a 4-second delay could be useful for high power rockets weighing 4 or 5 pounds, but we would not want to see them used in kits like the G-Force or Sumo.

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Gary,
Any chance you will be making the G80-4 again?
I love that motor!

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Old 06-13-2020, 10:17 AM
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As you may remember, we dropped that delay in 2007 when the G80 was redesigned to produce 137 N-sec, which was a 42% increase in total impulse over the previous design. Because of the increased total impulse, heavier model rockets using the 4 second delay should now use the longer 7 second delay. I suppose a 4-second delay could be useful for high power rockets weighing 4 or 5 pounds, but we would not want to see them used in kits like the G-Force or Sumo.


I have several fairly heavy NCR rockets, but love my Bomarc. If I used a 7 second delay, it would hit the ground before the charge went off. I like SU motors; not a fan of RMS. The G80-4 was perfect.

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I have several fairly heavy NCR rockets, but love my Bomarc. If I used a 7 second delay, it would hit the ground before the charge went off. I like SU motors; not a fan of RMS. The G80-4 was perfect.

Allen


There is a DMS G80T-14A that you can drill the delay but the DMS drilling tool is set up to take 8 sec off at the most, you could use a regular bit with a drill stop or a tape stop if you wanted to get to 4 or 5 seconds.
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Old 06-13-2020, 07:20 PM
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To update our progress on this project, we tested the delays for the C and D White Lightning Q-jets today and they were all within spec, with no failures or anomalies. The next step is to build the motors for certification and submit to the testing organization.


I think it is great that manufacturers are developing/producing more motors in the traditional 18mm x 70mm size.

I can't wait to try out these new Quest motors.

What I would like to see are some longer burn motors and a method of reliably staging small APCP propellant motors.
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Old 06-13-2020, 09:45 PM
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Longer burn 18mm composites are going to difficult because of the smaller throat size needed. You just can’t get an initiator in anything much smaller than a 0.090” diameter nozzle throat.

We have found that you can stage a C-size black powder booster motor to a C or D Q-Jet.

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I think it is great that manufacturers are developing/producing more motors in the traditional 18mm x 70mm size.

I can't wait to try out these new Quest motors.

What I would like to see are some longer burn motors and a method of reliably staging small APCP propellant motors.
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