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Old 02-23-2023, 10:58 AM
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Hmm . . . 83 members . . . Just about the same number that attend NARAM.

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And at least one who hasn't been to a NARAM since 2008.

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Old 02-24-2023, 06:46 PM
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And at least one who hasn't been to a NARAM since 2008.

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Leaving over 8900 Members who don't attend NARAM, at all . . .

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Old 03-10-2023, 04:39 PM
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Engines of "Home Brew" style with ZERO certification should be allowed for ALL rocketry events.
Our hobby should have ZERO regulation whatsoever.
I would prefer a "Wild West" total Free-Fer-All.
No Harm=No Foul. If "something" happens, you deal with individual incidents, individually in perpetuity.


Yes, I would like that , too . . . BUT !

(1) The NAR insurance would NEVER cover that . . . So, landowners will "shy away", without liability coverage.

(2) SOME regulation helps to prevent TOTAL regulation.

(3) It would pose extreme safety risks, potentially.

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Old 03-10-2023, 04:43 PM
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1) Big Deal
2) Nah
3) Don't care
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1) Big Deal
2) Nah
3) Don't care



(1) - Losing landowners IS a "big deal", when it comes to the future of Rocketry, particularly HPR, but LPR / MPR could be affected, too

(2) An example of "limited regulation" versus "total regulation" is NAR & TRIPOLI being able to do their own Certifications . . . "Total Regulation" might include having to be federally and/ or state licensed, fingerprinted, and having to keep meticulous records for EVERY motor, from Micro-Maxx, on up . . . There might also be a "usage tax" collected for "environmental impact", too.

(3) You would definitely "care", if one of your "basement bomber" motors, in a metal case, over-pressurized ( exploded, if BP ) and severely injured, or killed, a child, for example.

Without insurance, you would have to bear total financial responsibility . . . Not to mention potential criminal charges, due to the injury to and/or death caused, by your actions.

Just because something is "unregulated" does not mean that the consequences of one's actions are not punishable by Law.

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REMEMBER, NAR Competition is based on ALL Competitors flying motors within a specific total impulse range, for each given event.

It's NOT about "fly whatever you want", regardless of power level.

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Old 03-11-2023, 07:40 AM
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Consider how slanted the playing field would be if BTCs are allowed to fly "boutique" motors they made or acquired from private sources at exorbitant prices...


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How is this for a different idea?

https://www.dars.org/newsletters/Sh...25i1.pdf#page=3

Scroll to page #3 if it did not do so automatically.


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How is this for a different idea?


Did this idea gain any traction within DARS?
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How is this for a different idea?

https://www.dars.org/newsletters/Sh...25i1.pdf#page=3

Scroll to page #3 if it did not do so automatically.


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So, the idea is to "scrap" rule 9.9 ( Modeler must construct his own model ) . . .

Overall, I like this idea and I would support it . . . EXCEPT in the Craftsmanship Events ( Classic Model, Concept Scale, Plastic Model Conversion, Scale, Scale Altitude, Sport Scale ).

I could see a few small rocket companies springing up, selling "RTF" or "ARF" competition models . . . Particularly in the Glider events, as long as they don't get "greedy" and charge $30-$50, for a model that uses $5 worth of parts .

Now, I fully expect to hear the "their time costs money and they need to charge for it" argument . . . Go down that path and this idea is doomed.

Frankly, we are attempting to attract KIDS to NAR Competition . . . So, having to shell out $200 - $300 for 5 or 6 pre-built, competition models that are likely to be lost on their first flight, is a "non-starter", for the most part !

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