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View Poll Results: What is your preferred Balsa Wood Sealer
Brodak sanding sealer 15 18.52%
Epoxy 0 0%
Diluted Elmers carpenter glue 3 3.70%
Full strength Elmers carpenter glue 1 1.23%
Lacquer automotive primer 0 0%
Enamel automotive primer 4 4.94%
Water based primer 0 0%
Plain old dope 5 6.17%
CA glue 2 2.47%
Elmers wood filler 28 34.57%
Spackle 2 2.47%
Other 21 25.93%
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Old 07-27-2022, 02:10 AM
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That is a bummer, oh well Sig it is.......Rand-O-Fil Silver is basically dope with Silver pigments added. I don't want to mess with sanding silver dope, don't know why they did this but I am sure they have their reasons. Normal balsa sanding sealer was nothing more than dope with an additive to help with sanding. The additive was not really a filler unless you bought Aerogloss Fillercote. I have used regular dope to seal and fill balsa grain for years with no issues.

I suspect they did it to avoid a few steps and extra weight to the plane. If you read their directions, they say something along the lines of seal, sand, then paint with silver dope. The silver dope is suppose to make flaws really visible.
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Randolph (which produces Brodak Sanding sealer) has discontinued making plain sanding sealer. The replacement is Rand-O-Fil Silver. I asked Brodak what the difference is and the response is that is supposed to be same but silver in color.

Has anyone tried this and how does it compare to the original?
Glad I bought some last year. It'll last me quite a while at the rate I use it. Down to just a couple 3.5 oz bottles of AeroGloss sanding sealer.
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I have at least 4 pints and I think a Quart of Aero Gloss Sanding Sealer along with multiple 3.5 oz jars.
Have about the same amount of Balsa Fillercoat in pint cans.
Probably a lifetime worth.
Sig is actually fully acceptable if you thin it properly.
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I too do not care to sand silver-colored sealer! I have a reasonable amount of Brodak’s traditional sanding sealer, and I guess I’ll switch to Sig. I probably need to buy it sooner than later. Also need to get another gallon or two of lacquer thinner, which is carried by fewer and fewer stores.
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Sanding Sealer is basically just clear butyrate dope with white styrene dissolved in it.
You can make your own easily.
Balsa Fillercoat is clear dope with talcum powder dissolved in it. Good luck finding Talcum Powder anymore. Corn Starch can be used instead of Talcum.



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Old 08-24-2022, 01:32 AM
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I'm glad I got two pint cans of Brodak sealer not that long ago. *sigh*
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I just found a large jar of Deft Lacquer Sanding Sealer in my wood shop. I originally paid $11 for a quart at Lowes, but they quit carrying it. The can was not sealing very well so I filled a jar, maybe a pint. I still have some Brodak Sanding Sealer, too, but I’m doing a rocket now with the Deft to see if I like it as much as Brodak. Both, as I recall, seem to require an extra coat compared to what using AeroGloss years ago. I may buy the Deft again if I can find it, since I am in no hurry to finish a build — an extra coat is not a concern.

I do know the Deft is going to be a LOT more than $11 for a quart if I can find it.
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I do know the Deft is going to be a LOT more than $11 for a quart if I can find it.

That's about what they charge at Ace Hardware for a spray can of the stuff. It's like spray dope, and works very well for sealing balsa.
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Also, Brodak butyrate "Primer" works almost exactly the same as "Balsa Fillercoat", which still exists.

MANY MANY years ago Pactra offered Aero Gloss SPRAY Sanding Sealer as well.
Never understood that as it would require masking the body tube just to seal the wood parts. Some steps are just better brush-applied.
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MANY MANY years ago Pactra offered Aero Gloss SPRAY Sanding Sealer as well.
Never understood that as it would require masking the body tube just to seal the wood parts.

Easy - some of us finish the fins before we glue them onto the model. They are a lot easier to get smooth that way. No need to mask anything.
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