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Old 02-20-2006, 09:06 PM
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Exclamation New Plan -- Ambassador's Transport

Think of this as a "base model" for a futuristic transport design. It could use some more details and "fiddly bits", as I like to call them. However, the predicted flight curves for this model as-is is respectable.

B6-2.....140'.....13 FPS
C6-3.....380'.....17 FPS

I don't recommend other motors at this time.

My "rough sketches" of this design had wings that resembled the Orbital Transport, with large, chunky engine shrouds outbound of the main engineering section, and Gyroc-type winglets top and bottom of those. I may try to recycle these ideas together into another model later on.

Skill Level 2.

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Old 02-20-2006, 09:29 PM
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That's a cool design there Craig!
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Old 02-20-2006, 10:02 PM
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That's a cool design there Craig!


Thanks. I've had the sketches taped up at my desk for over a year, and it really looks better "visually". Making it fly without resorting to ballast and a 24mm motor, however, might prove to be a bigger challenge...

I scanned the sheets I've been staring at to show you the original idea...
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Old 02-20-2006, 10:12 PM
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I like the second version better. The first looks too much like one of the Estes DOM birds.
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Old 02-20-2006, 10:19 PM
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Default Another Rough Sketch

For those interested in seeing how a twisted and demented rocket designer's mind can often work, here's another idea that's been giving me some trouble in getting it simulated. It's called "Star Sabre", and it's based around a 50's Buick Le Sabre. I'll go ahead and post the raw idea here to see if anyone else might make it work...

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Old 02-20-2006, 10:20 PM
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I like the second version better. The first looks too much like one of the Estes DOM birds.


You mean Sketch II, right? The images are in reverse sequence...
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Old 02-20-2006, 10:28 PM
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Yeah. The Caddy is also cool. Almost Goony-like in a way.
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I mentioned this one tongue-in-cheek awhile back, but realized it might just make a great model if the right image could be located. For the record, the image I chose was a toon-ish graphic located through Google. The artist is listed as Torben Soettrup...

Flight specs are nothing to sneeze at, either:

B4-4.....295'.....16 FPS
B6-4.....305'.....10 FPS
C6-5.....810'.....13 FPS
D3-5....1925'.....17 FPS

Stability with a C6 is 1.02 with a 3/8 oz weight in the tip of the NC. Do not use the A8-3, as the deployment V is too high, and the max altitude is only 100'.

Craig, I like this one. It looks vaguely like my BT-80/70 3-motor cluster model, only smaller and with fewer fins.
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Old 02-22-2006, 06:55 PM
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Exclamation New Plan -- ASP

Here's a simple, "take-a-breather" type of model for all-around sport flying. Nice proportions using the ST-10 tube. Gentle parachute deployments. All-in-all, it's a relaxed-envelope modroc.

Length: 23.45"
Fin Span: 3.54"
Diameter: 1.04"
Weight: 1.38 oz (empty)

A8-3.....190'.....5 FPS
B4-4.....450'.....4 FPS
B6-4.....460'.....8 FPS
C6-5.....980'.....7 FPS

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Old 02-24-2006, 09:04 PM
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Exclamation New Plan -- Bobcat

A sport design with four fins and a nose cone, but taken just a little beyond bland and boring. Performance marks are better than you might expect for something looking like this one. Note: A parachute is shown in the RKT file being stuffed into the ST-5 forward tube. This might be a little too tight a fit, and can probably be replaced with a pair of 1" x 10" streamers, or a single 2" x 20" streamer. It should still be recovered safely, given the light weight of the model.

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Length: 22.90"
Diameter: 0.908"
Fin Span: 3.658"
Weight: 1 oz

A8-3.....270'.....13 FPS
B4-4.....575'.....17 FPS
B6-4.....575'.....20 FPS (32 FPS/S higher acceleration than B4-4)
C6-5....1120'.....10 FPS

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