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Old 02-07-2011, 07:26 AM
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Default Pershing II Dimensions

This may be old news but I got the Technical Manual from the web for the Pershing II missile system. Included in the specifications (along with the assembly and launch layout and some really nice line drawings of the electrical and mechanical shop interiors) are the section lengths for the PII elements. That includes the two powered airframe sections, the G&C/Adapter section, Warhead, and Radar.
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This may be old news but I got the Technical Manual from the web for the Pershing II missile system. Included in the specifications (along with the assembly and launch layout and some really nice line drawings of the electrical and mechanical shop interiors) are the section lengths for the PII elements. That includes the two powered airframe sections, the G&C/Adapter section, Warhead, and Radar.
Thank you for posting this--I had not seen the individual Pershing II component dimensions (in either English or metric units, and this list has both) before!
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I will jump in here and say:

1) I recommend Sandman (Roachwerks) Pershing II with the cardstock detail , it is just beautiful. I started mine but didn't finish until I learned more about how to do the paper details

2) I wish Estes would come out with a Maxi-Brute 4" Pershing II; WAY cooler than a IA and a great way for the new Estes to put its own stamp on the product line.
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Old 02-08-2011, 06:51 PM
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No to get too far off topic but I have to admire his Nike Hercules. I built one of these and the customer waxed lyrical. I had to suck it up and admit that all I did was cut out the bits.
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What were we talking about?

Oh, yea, the Pershing II.

Well I never offered a Pershing II kit...I made some parts for a Pershing II but I really didn't think there would be much of a market for it.

I can make more.

BTW more NH kits available soon.
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Well, I didn't think that you had kitted the P II - but we were on a roll.
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Well, I went back and looked and you're right, Sandman made me a furniture-grade nose cone assembly and the paper parts and I supplied the BT-80 tube, engine mount and recovery gear. I may go back and finish it now that I have alot more experience with cardstock.
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Well, I went back and looked and you're right, Sandman made me a furniture-grade nose cone assembly and the paper parts and I supplied the BT-80 tube, engine mount and recovery gear. I may go back and finish it now that I have alot more experience with cardstock.



IT'S NOT FINISHED!!!!

Where's my stick with nails in it?

BTW I have since made decals for it.
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REceived this from Lockheed Martin. While reasonable it is still a little off from the true rendering of the original in that the fin shape on the booster is a little off (although I did find that the fin sockets could take either fin) and the radar section is not conic. On the othe rhand there are station numbers on page 2, and the P II RR is also shown. More to follow I hope.
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You know . . . .

Probably the only problem with Sandman's kits (and I'm not the only one who thinks so) is that you open this box with some of the most beautifully machined balsa parts you have ever laid eyes on and then you look over your most recent builds with warpped fins, balsa grain showing and runs in the paint and you think to yourself "I don't have game for this." and you set it aside because no person wants to be the one who marred such a thing of beauty.

No kidding, I have a Sandman Pershing IA, Soyuz and Nike Herc and as mentioned the parts for a Pershing II sitting next to my computer. These are the rockets I've always dreamed of building since I was a kid. And my first thought every time I've opened the box is "Oh God, please don't let me screw this one up." I've studied the build instructions and have practiced on less ambitious rockets the techniques of cardstock details and glue dot bolt-heads (with GREAT results on a Semroc IQSY and a Maxi-V2) and I think I'm ready to tackle the Pershings. I do know that I need much more practice before my Sandman Soyuz looks like Chan Stevens' Sandman Soyuz or jharding's Sandman Nike.

Heck, if you guys had seen some of the first few rockets I built after I came back, you probably would have taken Sandman's kits away from me . . . .
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