I found a relic from the past at the HobbyTown USA store in North Dallas this afternoon. They had an Ace PNC-39 hanging from a peg. Since these are probably not currently being made, this one may be a consignment from someone's collection. It is significantly lighter than the smaller 3" LOC cone.


Bill

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Yes, and that's why I prefer them. The LOC cones are 'armor piercing' (or at least roof piercing) while the Ace cones will accordion-fold themselves, taking some of the energy out of a prang.

I've got three Ace cones remaining in my inventory.


Jerry-- Any idea who has the mold (Korey?) and could make more if there were demand?

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Jerry,
Nice photos of the ACE Cantata.
I still have one of the first ACE Cantata kits with Korey's 4" Balsa Nose Cones before he went to the ACE PNC-39 Plastic Cones. This is unbuilt.

I still have unbuilt early ACE Rockets, Fugue 18, Fugue 23, Minuete, Vance, (2) Allegro 2420's.

I do have fin patterns for the Mongrel, that I got from you in the early 80's and from Chris Pearson.
I have fin patterns for all for the above around here.
I've got the plans somewhere here, for the ACE Allegro Largo. As well as the fin pattern.
I've got an open ACE Squid, but missing the wood dowels.

I've got a early LOC Precision Graduator 4" kit that came with a ACE PNC-39 Plastic Nose Cone.

I'll try to scan some of the photos of the Allegro Largo, I took at the early LDRS events in Ohio, and post them here, on the forum.

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Another super old thread .

revisiting as I dig out old stuff and get back at it - have rebuild of my Cantata coming up soon.

Larry, you still around ? would love to see soem Stargate scans and info as well, I had an Aero-Ram, now lost
Would especially like to see plans for the early 2 x 24mm Stargate had .

And, Allegro Largo is on my wish list, so if that info exists.. one of the first ' huge' kit offerings.

~ HPR historian AL

I have done most of a website and many of the instructions to revive availability of Ace kits. One dealer has a standing order for bulk kits as they come on line. That helps a lot!

The current plan is to have wood nose cones made, in redwood if available, otherwise some other fairly soft wood.

I suppose if they ever make actual money I would feel compelled to give Korey a royalty of course.

Last I checked AT got the PNC-39 nose cone mold. I designed a kit around that nose cone called the Sentra SRB. It was first published in HPR Magazine. I have had difficulty finding a suitable replacement cone since. I was hoping I could buy bulk Estes Maxi Der Red Max cones, but so far negotiations have led nowhere. I suspect an AT Sumo cone might be a possibility. In the mean time I have a smaller version with nose cones I can actually get.

The thicker LOC nose cones offset their smaller fin sizes, but are not well suited to micro-mass rockets for small field use. Something U.S. Rockets excels at.

http://v-serv.com/usr/aceseries.htm

http://v-serv.com/usr/kits/sentra_srb.htm

http://v-serv.com/usr/kits/sentrasrb2.7.htm

Larry, if there is any way you can pass along things like fin shapes and tube lengths and configuration notes for those kits you have, I can double check them against what I already have and try to kill inevitable bugs.

I wouldn't mind buying the Ace nose cone mold just so it stays out there. It was a real accomplishment when it was released.

Now that 1500g rockets are FAA exempt and NAR allows 125g motors as MR motors, there has never been a better time for the Ace PNC-39. Just about 30 years (13% of the life of this country) ahead of its time!

Jerry

Ahhh, you must have visited 'Tammie's Hobbies' in Beaverton. One of the finest shops anywhere.


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The Mini Cantata is single 29mm. However you can leave out the motor mount and use a typical USR interchange mount to do 3x29mm.

Jerry

I thought the Mini Cantata was 24 + 6x 18mm ? or 4 x 18mm ?

I know Warren Siscos at one of the WUBBA launches, that I have pics of, was clustered, maybe modified ?
Would have to dig out old ACE ads.

Ace made a wide range of "custom kits" and those should be duplicated too as "Masters Kits", but the mass market version BT-80 was 29mm.

Let's not forget he loved Al Swackhammer, Warren Sisco and others above average.