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Old 02-26-2012, 09:46 PM
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Default CHINA STUDY SUMMARY: "New Generation Launch Vehicles China Lunar Exploration Program"

Here's a presentation done in English for a symposium a few years back. It details the Chinese Long March rockets and the new generation of launch vehicles they intend to develop. Note the "greener" references in the study (which is basically a summary verbatim of the slides from the presentation) about "non-polluting propellants" meaning non-hypergolics-- NTO/UDMH are pretty nasty chemicals when released... besides, LOX/RP-1 has the best fuel density and theoretical ISP combination for booster rockets, while hydrogen/oxygen is still superior for upper stages due to the highest theoretical ISP available in chemical propulsion.

Pics to follow.

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Long March satellite launch...

Long March Rocket family...

Two engines for use on Long March rockets...

Three standard modules (stages) used on Long March...

One series of launchers from the available components in various combinations...

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5 meter diameter core variants...

2013 first launch...

Chang'e, Lady Chang, who flew to the moon in Chinese legend, whom their moon program is named for...

Lunar Orbiting Exploration phase of the program, organizational/support chart... (MAN do they have a lot to learn about byzantine organizational/support/management functions! With such a simplistic organization, they might ACTUALLY get something done besides being stuck in a morass of red tape! shocking!)

Long March 3B launches lunar spacecraft...

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Long March 5-E launching...

Chinese lunar unmanned soft lander/sample return mission entering lunar orbit...

Another LM-5E launch first stage shot...

Interesting photo on the final slide of the presentation... spacecraft in the right corner look familiar?? It's an American Apollo! LOL Now the Chinese won't be cloning Apollo to go to the moon, they already have plans to upgrade their Shenzhou to do that... perhaps the "lets work together for mutual benefits" is an invitation for the US to join them when we finally quit trying to make "Apollo on steroids" and simply go back to doing a modern duplicate of Apollo and actually get back to going anywhere again... LOL Maybe in a back-door sort of way (the invitation)... hehehe...

Finally the China Aerospace crest, which they put on their rockets along with the PRC flag...

later! OL JR
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