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Old 02-10-2010, 01:41 AM
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Question Imaginary Kit Releases

This is STRICTLY UNOFFICIAL!

I'm playing "make believe," and I've been wondering *IF* I ever decided to release another one of my designs as a kit... which one it should be.


I've assembled 3 different lists:

1) Originals (which I'd seriously consider),

2) Possibilities (which would need some minor tweaking), and

3) Variations (which are my "takes" on other designs, and I probably *wouldn't* release them at all).


If you'd like to play along, I'll set up a poll so you can vote.


I'm also thinking that the design in question needs to be able to be upscaled ~175% for an SLS-type version, as well.

Again, THIS IS ALL STRICTLY SPECULATION!!! (So I don't wanna hear anybody griping about "Vaporware" that doesn't materialize.) I'm just doing (niche) market research, and that's all at this point.

The lists will follow.


Thanks for your consideration!
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Old 02-10-2010, 01:43 AM
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ORIGINALS:

Argent

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showp...51&postcount=83

Pictures:
http://www.oldrocketforum.com/attac...achmentid=12583

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/attac...achmentid=12586


En Garde

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showthread.php?t=4713

Picture:
http://www.oldrocketforum.com/attac...achmentid=12927


Envoy

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showthread.php?t=5213

Picture:
http://www.oldrocketforum.com/attac...achmentid=14455


Epsilon 3

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showp...8&postcount=366

Pictures:
http://www.oldrocketforum.com/attac...achmentid=11582

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/attac...achmentid=11589


Mu-tator

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showp...5&postcount=694


Premonition

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showp...6&postcount=323

Picture:
http://www.oldrocketforum.com/attac...achmentid=11349


Prometheus

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showthread.php?t=4681

Pictures:
http://www.oldrocketforum.com/attac...achmentid=12804

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/attac...achmentid=12811


Seeker P-S

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showthread.php?t=4748

Picture:
http://www.oldrocketforum.com/attac...achmentid=13042


Sonar 7

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showp...9&postcount=270

Pictures:
http://www.oldrocketforum.com/attac...achmentid=11142


XPL Experimental

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showp...7&postcount=230

Picture:
http://www.oldrocketforum.com/attac...achmentid=10891


5820 D

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showp...1&postcount=255


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POSSIBILITIES:

Azteca

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showthread.php?t=4785


Tryton

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showp...7&postcount=144


Zeta

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showp...8&postcount=242

Picture:
http://www.oldrocketforum.com/attac...achmentid=11016

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Old 02-10-2010, 01:52 AM
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Old 02-11-2010, 04:50 AM
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Jay, Your link for the pic of the Tryton shows us the Argo-C. FYI!
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Jay, Your link for the pic of the Tryton shows us the Argo-C. FYI!
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Allen,

Thanks for catching that!


All fixed now!

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Jay, I just came across your Perpetrator design for the first time; I didn't see it last March when you posted it. I agree with Steve Naquin - its a Novatrator! (Or maybe an Orbitrator.) I can clearly envision George Roos creating this very design sometime in 1967 or '68. But really, ST-7/ST-8, eventually upscaled to ST-10/ST-13? Neither combination would have ever been done at FSI. They didn't start using a 0.756" diameter tube (RT-6) until around 1990, and they never used a 1" tube. If this had been designed by George Roos when he owned the company, it would have used RT-8 and RT-10 (equivalent to ST-8F and ST-11). If it had been designed by Lonnie Reese and released in 1974 or thereafter, it would have used RT-12 and RT-15 (equivalent to ST-13 and ST-16). Also, post-1974, it would have had a solid balsa transition, with the upper section serving as a payload section and the recovery system being deployed out of the lower section as in your first version. IOW, it would have been a Penetreos (or an Eostrator). Anyway, I like it! (But I'm sure that you must have already anticipated that! ) Lately I have been thinking about creating an imaginary series of "FSI designs that were never produced." (Notice that I said "designs" not "kits," so no jokes, please. ) You have already come up with one!

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Jay, I just came across your Perpetrator design for the first time; I didn't see it last March when you posted it. I agree with Steve Naquin - its a Novatrator! [SNIP]

But really, ST-7/ST-8, eventually upscaled to ST-10/ST-13? Neither combination would have ever been done at FSI. [SNIP]

Also, post-1974, it would have had a solid balsa transition, with the upper section serving as a payload section and the recovery system being deployed out of the lower section as in your first version.
Mark,

Think of the FSI Penetrator colliding with the Centuri Excalibur. (I'm sure you've seen my ~1.37X Excalibur ST-10/13 upscale elsewhere on this forum. )


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Anyway, I like it! (But I'm sure that you must have already anticipated that! ) Lately I have been thinking about creating an imaginary series of "FSI designs that were never produced." (Notice that I said "designs" not "kits," so no jokes, please. ) You have already come up with one!
Yes. But just *one.* (sly look)

Glad you like it! Thanks for playing!


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Didn't know where else to put it. Being stuck in the house (watching B-5) and decided to do something different. Came up with a fin pattern for a BT-50.
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Didn't know where else to put it. Being stuck in the house (watching B-5) and decided to do something different. Came up with a fin pattern for a BT-50.
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