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Old 11-18-2013, 01:53 AM
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Even tho the picture on the box shows them as red, the one I built back in the day only had black stickers if I remember correctly.

BUT having said that, the red looks pretty cool...
Sandman's post (and your reply to it) brings up a consideration I hadn't thought of before: My set's rocket also had all-black & white self-adhesive paper stickers, and it was made by Science Fair Electronics--was yours? The reason why I ask is because the Aeronautical Lab Kit was *also* sold by Logix Enterprises under its own name (you can see both versions here: http://www.samstoybox.com/toys/Aeronautic.html ), and it's possible--although not likely; I'll explain below--that the rocket decal in their set had a red stripe (which I agree would look quite cool!). Also:

I bought a manual from an Aeronautical Lab Kit off eBay last year or the year before (I have it next to me now), and it's from the Science Fair SFX-4000 Aeronautical Lab Kit. Except for the company name on the cover, it looks identical to the Logix Enterprises manual on the above-linked web page (the plastic parts in both sets are molded in blue, while the plastic parts in my set were molded in red). This Science Fair manual was printed in Canada (Copyright 1973) and is copyrighted to Logix Enterprises in Montreal, Quebec. In addition:

I think the artist took some "artistic license" when s/he created the manual cover illustration that shows both the catapult rocket and the solid propellant rocket (the latter with its main body and nose cone parachutes deployed), with the limb of the crescent Moon behind and above them. Both rockets have red bands and stripes as well as black & white checkerboard roll patterns. While it is possible that Logix Enterprises' Aeronautical Lab Kit came with red, white, and black stickers for its rockets (and/or that Science Fair Electronics added red stripes to its rocket decals in later production runs of the set), I think the artist just used all three colors (in addition to the overall white color for both illustrated rockets, which wasn't the case for the actual ones [they had natural kraft body tubes and blue or red plastic nose cones, with no painting suggested]) to make the rocket illustrations more eye-catching and aesthetically pleasing. (They would, however, look very nice if painted and "decaled" as illustrated on the manual's cover!)
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Old 11-18-2013, 02:32 AM
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My plastic parts are molded in forest green.
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Old 11-18-2013, 02:59 AM
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My plastic parts are molded in forest green.
Interesting...I wonder if they also did a run of parts molded in yellow, or even black or white? (White would have been bad for the airplanes' propellers, the catapult handle, and for the launch controller panel, as they would have shown stains and dirt more readily.) Maybe other folks on here have or had sets with the plastic parts molded in other colors.
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Old 11-18-2013, 05:24 PM
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Don't quote me but I believe the kit I had was the Logix one. I recognize the kid on the top of the box. I also got this kit as a xmas gift and am pretty sure it came out of the JcPenny catalog as that is the store that had an "outlet" in my home town. I remember going thru those huge winter/xmas catalogs every year looking at all the cool toys.

I can also positively say that my nosecone was black plastic. I say this because I was doing some sanding on it recently and got enough of the old paint off to see it.

Here is a link to one on ePay that has baby blue plastic parts.

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My original one back in 1977 came in a box identical to the one I got via Ebay recently. The parts on my original one were red.
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Old 11-19-2013, 02:04 AM
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Don't quote me but I believe the kit I had was the Logix one. I recognize the kid on the top of the box. I also got this kit as a xmas gift and am pretty sure it came out of the JcPenny catalog as that is the store that had an "outlet" in my home town. I remember going thru those huge winter/xmas catalogs every year looking at all the cool toys.
Thank you for this information. That sounds familiar...my parents bought mine (also in 1977, if memory serves) out of the Sears & Roebuck Christmas catalog.
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I can also positively say that my nosecone was black plastic. I say this because I was doing some sanding on it recently and got enough of the old paint off to see it.
That color doesn't surprise me, as it is also used for rubber-powered model airplanes' plastic wheels (and sometimes their propellers as well), although red seems to be the most common plastic prop color, and yellow (and "silver plastic") ones are occasionally seen.
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Here is a link to one on ePay that has baby blue plastic parts.

http://tinyurl.com/nx9ffv7
Now *that* box lid looks familiar, even though I never had one; I think I saw one of those in our local Radio Shack in Miami back in the 1970s. I'd love to see someone (maybe Estes, as they also offer a limited selection of model airplanes and gliders) offer a similar Aeronautical Lab Kit, as I found mine very fun and I learned a lot from it. Also, the manual makes a great reference and project guide (which schools, Scouts, 4-H Clubs, and other youth groups could use) even by itself.
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My original one back in 1977 came in a box identical to the one I got via Ebay recently. The parts on my original one were red.
Although it's an admittedly very small statistical sample to draw conclusions from, red and blue appear to be the most common colors of the Aeronautical Lab Kits' plastic parts. If there are enamel (or maybe acrylic) paints that match the plastic colors well, white Estes Viking and Wizard BT-20 plastic nose cones could be painted those colors for clones of the Aeronautical Lab Kit rockets. (Even lacquer spray paint could be used if it matched the desired color; the first coat could be very light and be allowed to dry completely before more coats were sprayed on.)
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Old 11-21-2013, 01:44 AM
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I just got my internet back and already you have me confused!
Welcome back! I lost power for ~12 hours last Wednesday during a windy, wet-snow winter storm in our area (I was lucky--some residents were power-less for the rest of the week!). Regarding your confusion, such can be a consequence of the arcana of research... Here's the nutshell version:

The Logix solid propellant rocket decal set (based on what those who had--and have--the Aeronautical Lab Kit have seen) has no red stripes, but is all black-and-white. The red stripes and bands shown in the color illustrations of the rocket on the box and manual cover seem to have been added as "artistic license" (but they *would* look fab!). Perhaps a decal set for this rocket (and maybe for its "companion" catapult rocket, too) could have duplicates of the actual black-and-white decals as well as the "in the mind's eye of the artist" black, white, *and* red decals? For complete fidelity to the original decals (which were self-adhesive, glossy paper stickers), the duplicate decals could also be printed on such material (such as self-adhesive glossy paper label sheets).
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On the subject of the Science Fair/Logix Aeronautical Lab Kit, a teacher I am helping could use a copy of the cardstock parts sheet(s) that came in the set (I've explained about this here: http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showt...0814#post170814 ). Many thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
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