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Old 05-04-2006, 09:18 PM
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Unless I;m mistaken, the Estes Mongoose is an exact copy of the Scorpion as well.

Been wanting to do a Scorpion clone for years, as a few friends had em in the day ( never had one myself) - but the decals are not posted, anyone have those * beg * :-)

~ AL

(Please sned em to Scott and Phred, too, if someone has em :-)


Hey Al;

I dug through the archives here, and it does appear I have a set of Scorpion decals. Not in the greatest of shape because of their age, but workable. I'll get them scanned and off to Scott; he'll take it from there.

Concerning the Scorpion vs. Mongoose - almost identical. The difference is mainly in the length of the BT-50 used in the booster. The Scorpion booster has a BT-50AE (1.5"); the Mongoose booster has a BT-50 that's 1.875" (1-7/8") long. As for the parts that matter (the nose and the fin cans), yep, they are identical: the nose is a PNC-50YR and the fin can is the same as the Generic E2X - it's characterized by the slight wedge-shape airfoil in the fins, unlike the Challenger I fin can, whose fins have a slight diamond profile.
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Old 05-04-2006, 10:03 PM
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Unless I;m mistaken, the Estes Mongoose is an exact copy of the Scorpion as well.

Been wanting to do a Scorpion clone for years, as a few friends had em in the day ( never had one myself) - but the decals are not posted, anyone have those * beg * :-)

~ AL

(Please sned em to Scott and Phred, too, if someone has em :-)


I just bought a Mongoose, intending to use the fin cans and nose to clone a Scorpion. The decals were what was holding me back. I can't print white

* Gets down on knees beside Al and begs *
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I just bought a Mongoose, intending to use the fin cans and nose to clone a Scorpion. The decals were what was holding me back. I can't print white

* Gets down on knees beside Al and begs *


Bill,

Do you have the decals / artwork ? ( but just can't print white ?)

Maybe we could beg more and someone could print a few :-)

~ AL

ps: funny to see your post, as I mistakenly emailed Bill E about the Centuri Thunderbird clone we'd discussed before ( that you posted on EMRR), my swiss-cheese brain thought Bill E had posted it, lol ... wanted to ask about the Semroc decals that you wound up not using, went to use mine the other night and theyp;re on white paper, not good over the orange ( Carl notified and looking into it, Semroc = good people :-)
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Bill,

Do you have the decals / artwork ? ( but just can't print white ?)


Unfortunately, no. All I have is one sad old booster that has followed me across 3 states to remind me of my Scorpion.

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Maybe we could beg more and someone could print a few :-)

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I'm all for that - would love to have another Scorpion around; it was a sharp looking rocket!
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All I have is one sad old booster that has followed me across 3 states to remind me of my Scorpion...

I'm all for that - would love to have another Scorpion around; it was a sharp looking rocket!


Did the Scorpion have waterslide decals, or a large body wrap?
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Old 05-05-2006, 08:46 PM
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Did the Scorpion have waterslide decals, or a large body wrap?


From what I remember the Scorpion had waterslide decals, and had to be painted red and black .

I did ,however, always think it had the Challenger 1 fin cans, but it was mentioned they were,in fact, the 'newer' style.

can someone check an original to verify this ?

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From what I remember the Scorpion had waterslide decals, and had to be painted red and black .

I did ,however, always think it had the Challenger 1 fin cans, but it was mentioned they were,in fact, the 'newer' style.

can someone check an original to verify this ?

~ AL


I don't have a Scorpion, so I'm just doing some deductive reasoning. The Scorpion came out in 1980. The Challenger I, Kadet, and Star Wars Proton Torpedo were all in production that year. I have a feeling it used the older Challenger/Kadet/Proton Torpedo can.
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Did the Scorpion have waterslide decals, or a large body wrap?


The decals were waterslide - can still see them on my booster
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Old 05-06-2006, 08:37 PM
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From what I remember the Scorpion had waterslide decals, and had to be painted red and black .

I did ,however, always think it had the Challenger 1 fin cans, but it was mentioned they were,in fact, the 'newer' style.

can someone check an original to verify this ?

~ AL


Hi guys;

I have a couple of Scorpions here, and I can verify that the decals are waterslide, and the fin can is the same type as the Generic E2X/Athena/Mongoos/et al. The Challenger I fin can was only used in a handful of kits.
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From what I remember the Scorpion had waterslide decals, and had to be painted red and black .

I did ,however, always think it had the Challenger 1 fin cans, but it was mentioned they were,in fact, the 'newer' style.

can someone check an original to verify this ?

~ AL


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