Ye Olde Rocket Forum

Go Back   Ye Olde Rocket Forum > Work Bench > Scale & Sport Scale Rocketry
User Name
Password
Auctions Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts Search Mark Forums Read


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #11  
Old 05-14-2023, 09:10 PM
Ez2cDave's Avatar
Ez2cDave Ez2cDave is offline
Master Modeler
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Raleigh, NC Area
Posts: 1,670
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris_Timm
Some standard pics.



Nice detail !

Dave F.
__________________
"Failure Is Not An Option . . . Adapt & Overcome ! "

NAR # 26128 L2
TRIPOLI # 517 L2 ( inactive, at present )
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 05-15-2023, 06:12 PM
Chris_Timm's Avatar
Chris_Timm Chris_Timm is offline
Craftsman
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 451
Default more pics

More tail end detail pics.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:  Standard DP44.png
Views: 24
Size:  137.3 KB  Click image for larger version

Name:  Standard IT-1.jpg
Views: 21
Size:  64.6 KB  Click image for larger version

Name:  Standard L305.jpg
Views: 26
Size:  39.1 KB  
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 06-30-2023, 08:09 AM
MarkB.'s Avatar
MarkB. MarkB. is offline
Surfrajettes Fan
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: El Paso
Posts: 1,095
Default

I'll have some more assembly photos this weekend.

In the mean time, here are two more Standard Missile photos of AIM-97 Seekbat, an early 70's project to convert the RIM-66/AGM-78 into an air-to-air missile allowing F-4 and F-15 interception of high-flying MiG-25 Foxbat recon aircraft which had demostrated Mach 3.1 at 78,000 feet. We didn't know at the time that those numbers melted the engines.

No points for figuring out which F-4/F-15 operator was subject to Foxbat overflights in the late 60's or early 70's.

The first picture is a fairly standard industry mockup but the second picture of a Standard hung on a Six-Shooter F-106 is interesting. Six-Shooter F-106s had their weapons bay modified to have the Genie rocket replaced by an M61 Gatling gun. The installation looked remarkably like the fairing from an early F-4E aircraft grafted on. The bay doors folded around the gun installation. Not all F-106s were so modified.

The Seekbat project was eventually cancelled due to technical issues and after the Air Force acquired intel from the Belenko MiG-25.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:  AIM-97a.jpg
Views: 28
Size:  33.6 KB  Click image for larger version

Name:  AIM-97b.jpg
Views: 24
Size:  15.1 KB  
__________________
NAR 79743
NARTrek Silver
SAM 062

Awaiting First Launch: Too numerous to count
Finishing: Zooch Saturn V; Alway/Nau BioArcas; Estes Expedition
Repair/Rescue: Cherokee-D (2); Centuri Nike-Smoke; MX-774
On the Bench: 2650; TLP Standard
Dream Stage: 1/39.37 R-7

Last edited by MarkB. : 06-30-2023 at 08:27 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 06-30-2023, 10:18 AM
ghrocketman's Avatar
ghrocketman ghrocketman is offline
President, MAYHEM AGITATORS, Inc.
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Nunya Bizznuss, Michigan
Posts: 13,182
Default

I liked the Genie rocket a lot better than a Gatling gun.
Anywhere close and the target gets taken magically OUT.
They should have developed a guidance system for the Genie.
__________________
When in doubt, WHACK the GAS and DITCH the brake !!!

Yes, there is such a thing as NORMAL
, if you have to ask what is "NORMAL" , you probably aren't !

Failure may not be an OPTION, but it is ALWAYS a POSSIBILITY.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 07-05-2023, 07:59 AM
MarkB.'s Avatar
MarkB. MarkB. is offline
Surfrajettes Fan
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: El Paso
Posts: 1,095
Default

Well,

Sometimes, when it comes time to build the rocket, you get to start answering your own questions. I started this thread asking why we don't see more Standard missiles built. Now I know: because getting the long strakes down the body to line up is a serious pain in the backside.

Picture 1 shows a closeup of the notorious Launch Pad paper hat faired in with red Bondo Glazing & Spot putty from the tube. It has been said elsewhere that mastering this technique is the gateway to the dark arts of rocketry. The underlying plastic is the Estes parabola from a Fat Boy or Great Big Bertha. This is really the only part of the build that used any of the Launch Pad kit. One of the problems I have with the Launch Pad kits is fin shape and this one was no different. I've built the Lance, Hellfire and PAC-3 and they all had fins that need to be corrected and re-drawn. This may be because when the kits were originally made, the quality of material available on the Internet was more limited. Nevertheless, I changed the shape of both the steering fins and the strakes themselves using the Minokov drawings because I thought they were the best match of the pictures and because I liked the irony.

Picture 3 shows the 1/32 ply core of the strakes laid out and Picture 4 shows them in the process of cutting out. I added 1/32 balsa on each side. In this scale, the strakes were 1' wide which made measuring fairly easy. Picture 2 shows the process of adding the distinct fillets down the side of each strake. The paper is 1/2" strips of heavy cardstock.

There's no way to show the amount of fiddling that it took to get the strakes on straight. I used double-butt glueing and did each strake one at a time. I then let each one sit for an hour or two before doing the next one. Picture 5 shows the airframe out in the afternoon sun. 101 degrees and 24% relative humidity will dry out the Titebond very quickly.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:  Standard6.jpg
Views: 32
Size:  854.4 KB  Click image for larger version

Name:  Standard5.jpg
Views: 14
Size:  690.3 KB  Click image for larger version

Name:  Standard4.jpg
Views: 12
Size:  915.6 KB  Click image for larger version

Name:  Standard3b.jpg
Views: 13
Size:  903.2 KB  Click image for larger version

Name:  Standard3a.jpg
Views: 9
Size:  882.5 KB  
__________________
NAR 79743
NARTrek Silver
SAM 062

Awaiting First Launch: Too numerous to count
Finishing: Zooch Saturn V; Alway/Nau BioArcas; Estes Expedition
Repair/Rescue: Cherokee-D (2); Centuri Nike-Smoke; MX-774
On the Bench: 2650; TLP Standard
Dream Stage: 1/39.37 R-7
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 08-06-2023, 08:58 PM
MarkB.'s Avatar
MarkB. MarkB. is offline
Surfrajettes Fan
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: El Paso
Posts: 1,095
Default

This afternoon, very briefly, it was 111 degrees, in the shade, on my patio.

Out-gassing in the blazing Texas Sun is the Standard and a rescue Centuri MX-774.

The sun is setting now and it's still 106. The paint will still be warm to the touch in the morning.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:  Standard8.jpg
Views: 19
Size:  938.6 KB  
__________________
NAR 79743
NARTrek Silver
SAM 062

Awaiting First Launch: Too numerous to count
Finishing: Zooch Saturn V; Alway/Nau BioArcas; Estes Expedition
Repair/Rescue: Cherokee-D (2); Centuri Nike-Smoke; MX-774
On the Bench: 2650; TLP Standard
Dream Stage: 1/39.37 R-7
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 08-07-2023, 06:03 AM
A Fish Named Wallyum's Avatar
A Fish Named Wallyum A Fish Named Wallyum is online now
BP Mafia
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Ft. Thomas, KY
Posts: 8,512
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkB.
This afternoon, very briefly, it was 111 degrees, in the shade, on my patio.

Out-gassing in the blazing Texas Sun is the Standard and a rescue Centuri MX-774.

The sun is setting now and it's still 106. The paint will still be warm to the touch in the morning.

Looks like a dry heat.
__________________
Bill Eichelberger
NAR 79563

http://wallyum.blogspot.com/

I miss being SAM 0058

Build floor: Centuri Design Contest F-150 Hurricane Estes - Low Boom SST Semroc - Shrike, SST Shuttle

In paint: Estes Air Commander, B.O.S.S., F-22 Air Superiority Fighter, Long Tom, Solar Sailer II Semroc Cyber III, Excalibur, Firefly

Ready to fly: Estes - Pathfinder
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:10 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.0.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Ye Olde Rocket Shoppe 1998-2023