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Old 12-28-2008, 07:44 PM
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Exclamation Revised Plan -- 1987 Estes Catalog Parts Demo

This one took some additional work. The callout for an 18mm motor just would not have worked. This pig needed the power of a D12-5 on a Maxi-Rod to reach a safe flight V.

Looks good visually, but the Dv numbers are high. Reef the parachute.

Length: 25.75"
Diameter: 1.64" (BT-60)
Fin Span: 10.14"
Weight: 3.9 oz

Averaged over 10 runs:


D12-5......614'......Dv 25-27 FPS......48" x 3/16" rod


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Old 12-28-2008, 07:54 PM
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OK, y'all look like your having so much fun I decided to join the party!

This is a design I did in the TRF Box of Parts competition


Actually, the contest was with EMRR.

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Nice model. You mentioned having submitted it for a competition on TRF, where you won a prize for it. What sort of rules did they have for that competition? Did you surrender any copyrights to TRF as a pre-requisite, for example?


I'm not aware of any copyright requirements for EMRR. In fact, I believe the idea is to have the plans available for others to copy. Part of the judging includes
- Write-up (30% total)
- Well-written instructions that others could replicate (20%)

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Old 12-28-2008, 08:14 PM
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...I'm not aware of any copyright requirements for EMRR...


That's good to know. Thanks, Les. The plans still need some final work, but this is a model that would be a nice addition to the Master List. Some contests take control of any submitted design, whether it gets selected or not.
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Old 12-28-2008, 10:34 PM
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Jon,

How are the two main tubes joined? Is the BT-55 mounted with rings inside the BT-60? How much of an overlap do you have?

Having built one "in the wild" means the simulations should be close enough.

You're always welcome to join this party! We never close...


Yep, the BT-55 is mounted to the BT-60 with rings inside the BT-60..In fact Carl at SEMROC whipped up a bunch of them(they are on the site CR5560) so I could build a MKII version of this..The BT-55 is a full 18" long with it going to the top centering ring on the engine mount, so, in reality, the BT-55 is only getting about 1/2 of each engines ejection charge..But plenty to push all the laundry out for recovery..

And yeah, it was an EMRR contest..Most of it was planned and coordinated on TRF tho ..We sent odd parts/things to the coordinator who then randomly mixed the parts around and shipped them out to the participants..No 'copyright' that I know of..Part of the judging was to have a good write up on the rocket and instructions so others could make their own copy...

Glad you never close! I like popping in at the weirdest hours!
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Old 12-29-2008, 12:49 AM
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Exclamation Revised Plan -- Vostakyre

Good performance and good looks.

The pods are shown in a "not actually attached" mode. Attach them to the lower (smaller-diameter) body section, along the transition edge. They should tilt inward toward the top, similar to the original booster.

Length: 18.00"
Diameter: 0.908" (ST-8)
Fin Span: 4.03"
Weight: 1.39 oz


A8-3.......231'......Dv 10 FPS......36" x 1/8" rod
B6-6.......649'......Dv 17 FPS......36" x 1/8" rod
C6-7......1562'......Dv 18 FPS......36" x 1/8" rod


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Old 12-29-2008, 11:49 AM
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Exclamation New Plan -- Cloud Scooter

Here's a simple, but eye-catching, model that should look good in the air. The two massive rings were modeled as tube fins.

Length: 17.20"
Diameter: 1.04" (ST-10)
Fin Span: 8.92"
Weight: 1.51 oz


A8-3......158'......Dv 15 FPS......36" x 1/8" rod
B4-4......352'......Dv 17 FPS......36" x 1/8" rod
B6-4......355'......Dv 14 FPS......36" x 1/8" rod
C6-5......718'......Dv 26 FPS......36" x 1/8" rod


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Old 12-29-2008, 06:58 PM
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Exclamation New Plan -- Mini Kee

Here's one that looks like it would make a good addition to any fleet. This is an ST-8 size version of the original K-47 Cherokee-D for 13mm power. The optimum motor seems to be the A3-4T, with low Dv numbers.

Length: 14.60"
Diameter: 0.908" (ST-8)
Fin Span: 4.223" (scaled from the original)
Weight: 0.77 oz

Averaged over 10 simulations:

A3-4T......454'......Dv 6-7 FPS......36" x 1/8" rod

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Exclamation Revised Plan -- Cloud Tickler

Another from way back, this one just needed some dressing-up with fins out on the nacelles, and a canopy image...

Still puts in a clean flight, with < 2 FPS Dv on both the 1/2 A3-2T and A10-3T motors.

Length: 16.05"
Diameter: 0.908" (ST-8)
Fin Span: 6.48"
Weight: 1.32 oz


1/2 A3-2T......82'......Dv < 1 FPS......36" x 1/8" rod
A10-3T........238'......Dv < 2 FPS......36" x 1/8" rod


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Old 12-30-2008, 12:49 AM
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Over the past few months using R8 I have added most all of the Semroc Classic Body tubes to my database. Attached is the Excel file which should be placed in the "DataImport" folder in Rocksim 9, which seems to be sadly missing most Semroc data files.

I want to thank Craig for helping me figure this out and if anything should go wrong with your computer I "absolve myself from all responsibility" and place it squarely on his shoulders . Now thats a Pal for ya .

James Pierson
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I was hoping the Rocksim parts database for v9 was going to be updated. Thanks Jim for posting your updated body tube parts file! Would you (or other designers) be willing to share your other parts files? It saves a lot of data entry work.

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