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Old 10-15-2020, 01:28 PM
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Default Seeking data/pictures: Misty picture Talos Terrier sounding rockets

I find references to Talos Terrier sounding rockets being used as part of the Misty Picture big bang test. but I can't find drawing or pictures.

I'm interested in the payload/nosecone.
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Old 10-16-2020, 03:13 PM
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I find references to Talos Terrier sounding rockets being used as part of the Misty Picture big bang test. but I can't find drawing or pictures.

I'm interested in the payload/nosecone.


Charles,

I'm searching . . . I found a PDF file for the project, so far.

https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a283521.pdf

Also :

https://ia903100.us.archive.org/0/i...C_ADA283521.pdf

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Thanks Dave. I had found those also. Still no pictures, though.

I have seen a photo pf a Terrier with a scientific payload that looked a lot like the one I made for my Malemute. I might set up to just use that.
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This is a "tough one", Charles !

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That's awesome Chris!!

I wonder what that nosecone is? It looks like a 10-11 degree cone with a blunt tip.

And the circle under the nosecone? Not likely to be a NASA meatball.

It gives me something to work with, though! And I'd like to fly the Talos Terrier before I try a Talos Terrier Recruit or a Talos Terrier Black Brant.
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Voila!

Wow, I'm wondering how that image was created.

What comes to mind is an almost Rube Goldberg "image scanner" that was used in the mid 1980's with a Macintosh's Imagewriter dot-matrix printer. The ribbon cartridge was replaced by the scanner sensor in a housing the same shape as the cartridge.

The object being scanned HAD to be a photo or paper, capable of being inserted into the printer and advanced by the print rollers. Actually, come to think of it, the Imagerwriter used pin-feed paper, so I think whatever was scanned had to be taped onto pin-feed paper first.

The image scan cartridge made a single horizontal run, the software would advance the paper a tiny bit, and then another horizontal scan, and so on. Very slow. And not very good quality. But it worked, and was not very expensive. Not saying I think this was used on that image.

Ah, googled it. "Thunderscan". Cost a bit more than I remembered (I never had one, saw Matt Steele using one). Article:
https://www.appleworld.today/blog/2...owback-thursday
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Ah, googled it. "Thunderscan".


"ThunderScan" . . . Sounds like a title of a new James Bond film . . . LOL !

Seriously, I wonder where the original image is and where it was accessed from ?

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Chris, thank you for the pictures.

It does bring me back to my dilemma of 'what to build'. I've worked out some dimensions, so I can whip up a payload and nosecone that will look good from a distance. And I figure I'll run with that.

The drawings and photo suggest that the Terrier stage flew with a set of fins that look a -lot- like the Malemute fins. They appear to be upscaled compared to the Malemute - when I run the numbers to compare to my Malemute sim, the difference is bigger than I think measurement error would explain.

The Talos looks like its flying with the larger area Terrier fin option.

And the stack looks just like the pictures of the Talos Terrier Recruit.

I'm not going to build a second Talos or Terrier, though. I'll have to settle for less than scale.
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