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Straightening a 1340 type fin can - Estes Shooting Star 1435 content
I'm not sure this is a question of building technique so much as restoration/rehabilitation of a part, but here goes.
I am a big fan of the Enerjet division 1340 derived models of Centuri and Estes. This fin can is part of a Shooting Star 1435 kit, I believe the only 1340 model that was sold inside a Range Box - and perhaps this is why. The fins don't fit in the closed box without taking on this squashed/curve arrangement. The not-in-catalog kit is I think from around 1986, along with the Discovery model, so chronologically in that gap between the Challenger II and Maniac. I put the fin can into a 4-fin jig, clamped tightly at room temperature for a few months, and that seems to have accomplished nothing. My next thought is to (carefully) add heat to the process, and I am considering immersing fins and jig in just-boiled water. Or a heated bath a lower temperature. Another possibility might be some degree of hair drying warming - though that is harder to control of course. At the moment, the fin can is the toughest/costliest of the 3 main components (vs. BT and NC) to get if you want to build a proper 1340/Phoenix Bird or whatever. Yellow is the easiest color to get, but still I'd like to be able to build a Shooting Star with the original parts. Anyone out there have some experience in straightening some of these molded plastic parts, fins or otherwise? Thanks in advance. |
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I don't think a hair dryer will get hot enough.
I would try a MonoKote-type (RC aircraft covering) heat gun Heat it up really good in the fin jig. Then shock-cool it in a freezer.
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So much much hotter than 212F too? My fin jig is the plastic Estes one, which probably also would begin to deform if I reached the right temperature. Maybe I can come up with some metal method, blocks in a vice where I could at least heat/fix 2 opposite fins at a time. My heat gun does a nice job of softening, deforming and melting PVC pipe, which is of course much thicker. It's just a challenge to stop short of real damage. Last edited by Tramper Al : 03-01-2023 at 10:49 AM. |
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Does it need to stay original? If not then perhaps use contact cement to attached pieces of 1/32” plywood to each surface of each fin, use braces to flatten them down, and then shape the leading edges accordingly.
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I have straightened Alpha III fins by dipping just one fin at a time in water that was just boiling for about 15 seconds, then carefully bending them the other way. It may take a few tries but should work.
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Ah, thank you. This gives me some idea of how hot for how long may be needed, if the fin thickness and plastic are similar. |
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For the Alpha III plastic, it is barely hot enough but does work. Good luck!! |
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The 1340 fin can's fins are about the same constant thickness as the Alpha III's fins are at the root (they taper in thickness). So maybe hot water will work....
I need to remember this the next time I come across a warped Alpha III/IV/VI or relatives.
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I was just looking at a 1340 clone discussion on YORF, and one poster contended that the fin can is polystyrene.
Searching polystyrene, I get: Melting temp: 410-480F Typical Injection Molding temp = 100-150F So this makes me nervous about using anything near boiling 212F off the bat. I think I may start off with a water bath near the low end of the molding range, and go from there. I'd prefer to sneak up on the optimal temp for some gentle remolding, if possible. I have an ultrasonic cleaner that I believe can reliably maintain temps in that range. I think with water immersion I'm likely to get a more uniform effect, and avoid any surface cooking/blistering that can happen with heated air heat gun / hair drying. Thanks all for advice / guidance on this. |
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It’s likely the injection temp given is under pressure so 150 degrees will likely do nothing at normal pressure, but I respect wanting to preserve this rare fin can.
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