kurt-
The one I'm referring to IS a MANAGER !!!
Not much of a chance in the guys beneath getting terminated if the mgmt. at the facility supports the activity.
One time he told me about an impromptu indoor 'soccer' match played with boxes.
Every box under 2' in length for about 2hrs had AT LEAST one solid BOOT-PRINT on it.
Some had toes kicked solidly through.
His response to this is 'you better ship in a DURABLE box' !

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When in doubt, WHACK the GAS and DITCH the brake !!!

Yes, there is such a thing as NORMAL, if you have to ask what is "NORMAL" , you probably aren't !
Failure may not be an OPTION, but it is ALWAYS a POSSIBILITY.
ALL systems are GO for MAYHEM, CHAOS, and HAVOC !