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Garoq 05-19-2020 08:32 AM

White Lightning Q-Jets
 
Developmental static test today of a new 18mm diameter C15-8W Q-Jet™ motor. We announced the White Lightning™ Q-Jets at NARCON in Tucson in early March. This motor will be as close to 10.0 N-sec total impulse as possible. A 'D'-impulse version (a D20W) in the same 18mm casing has also been tested at ~14 N-sec. Final delay tests and submittal for certification will be completed soon!
https://www.facebook.com/flyaerotec...83279052835086/

Jerry Irvine 05-19-2020 09:44 AM

Are there any plans for longer casing versions for full D and mid E motors? Thanks. Congrats.

On a related note does AT have a slower burning propellant that would provide similar or slightly lower average thrust levels in extended motors and incidentally allow similar throats to be used?

Garoq 05-19-2020 01:17 PM

We're not yet ready to discuss plans for products not already announced.

Yes to the second question.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Irvine
Are there any plans for longer casing versions for full D and mid E motors? Thanks. Congrats.

On a related note does AT have a slower burning propellant that would provide similar or slightly lower average thrust levels in extended motors and incidentally allow similar throats to be used?

ghrocketman 05-19-2020 01:54 PM

Sounds interesting.
New 18mm SU choices are always a good thing.

BEC 05-19-2020 02:13 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ghrocketman
Sounds interesting.
New 18mm SU choices are always a good thing.


This is very interesting. I REALLY like the existing C12s but having more choices is a good thing, as GH just noted.

I can think of a bunch of models that would work great on a projected C15-6W.

Garoq 05-19-2020 02:58 PM

Turns out that some customers apparently do not care much for the Black Max propellant exhaust effects. The White Lightning exhaust should be at least as exciting as black powder.

The motors will weigh slightly less, since WL has a higher Isp and lower density.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BEC
This is very interesting. I REALLY like the existing C12s but having more choices is a good thing, as GH just noted.

I can think of a bunch of models that would work great on a projected C15-6W.

BEC 05-19-2020 03:53 PM

I'm OK with the smoky exhaust (I also like CTI Smoky Sams). But it does get GSE dirty.

And for the C12s in particular, the extra performance over an Estes C6, especially for, but not limited to, heavier models is very satisfying and certainly seems to be more than one would expect from going from 8.8 N-s (Estes C6) to 9.8 N-s (Q-Jet C12).

On the other hand, White Lightning has a reputation for being difficult to light and for that to get worse as is it ages. Is this formulation of White Lightning more resistant to this? This is why I had mixed feelings when I heard about White Lightning Q-Jets.

I know I have personally been more frustrated getting the SU D10s lit than just about any other composite I have flown.

AeroTech 05-19-2020 04:14 PM

This WL variant is easier to ignite, very similar to Black Max.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BEC
I'm OK with the smoky exhaust (I also like CTI Smoky Sams). But it does get GSE dirty.

And for the C12s in particular, the extra performance over an Estes C6, especially for, but not limited to, heavier models is very satisfying and certainly seems to be more than one would expect from going from 8.8 N-s (Estes C6) to 9.8 N-s (Q-Jet C12).

On the other hand, White Lightning has a reputation for being difficult to light and for that to get worse as is it ages. Is this formulation of White Lightning more resistant to this? This is why I had mixed feelings when I heard about White Lightning Q-Jets.

I know I have personally been more frustrated getting the SU D10s lit than just about any other composite I have flown.

Jerry Irvine 05-19-2020 04:50 PM

Thanks for the posts to this thread Gary. Your positive responses to my inquiry are quite promising for "unannounced products".

BEC 05-19-2020 05:21 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by AeroTech
This WL variant is easier to ignite, very similar to Black Max.


Sounds good. I look forward to giving some of these Q-Jet-Ws a try when then are available.


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