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johnnwwa 02-01-2011 11:03 PM

White Tiger #2040 Fin Pattern etc.
 
Does anyone have any scans of the White Tiger? Need fin pattern and body tube length and nose cone type. I have the decals but that is all. Any help would be great.

John

jharding58 02-02-2011 12:34 AM

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The 1991 catalog page is available at Ninfinger. You might fall foul of the Estes renumbering issues; going from 2040 to 2055 and thence the number being reused for the BLU-97B. The catalog calls for a total length of 22.5 inches on a 0.976 (BT-50) tube. The YORS references a PNC-50YR which can be had from Sirius Rocketry. I thnk it is about 3.6" to the shoulder. As for the fins...

http://ninfinger.org/rockets/catalo...91/91est20.html

http://www.siriusrocketry.biz/ishop...products_id=750

John Brohm 02-02-2011 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnwwa
Does anyone have any scans of the White Tiger? Need fin pattern and body tube length and nose cone type. I have the decals but that is all. Any help would be great.

John



From http://www.rocketshoppe.com/info/Es...be_List_3.1.pdf, page 21, we can see that the body tube is 18" long.

From http://www.rocketshoppe.com/info/Es...erence_10.1.pdf, page 20, we can see that the nose is indeed a PNC-50YR.

I'll have to check, but I don't think my kit is open, so I'll have to see if I have some other nefarious means to come up with a fin pattern.

Green Dragon 02-02-2011 11:54 AM

Might be a fin pattern shared with somethign else, too - Estes of the era was known fo rthat, releasing kits with reuse of fin patterns,etc to maximise usage of tooling.
If you have instructions sheets with a part # for the diecut sheet, might match up to another kit.

~ AL

jharding58 02-02-2011 04:25 PM

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Just by eye... if John can get a rule next to the plastic bag and confrim the lengths then we are cooking. Anyone have a Rocksim component of the PNC-50YR?

Or I could just post the pdf location...

http://estesplans.larocketryforum.com/

Scroll down to 2055

CPMcGraw 02-02-2011 04:52 PM

Could this possibly be the #1276 Antares fin?

My first thought was it looked very "Alpha", but thinking about the re-use of kit parts idea, the Alpha only came as a sheet of three, The Antares, however, came as a set of four.

This might also be the #1294 Cobra (same fin sheet, I think).

jharding58 02-02-2011 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CPMcGraw
Could this possibly be the #1276 Antares fin?

My first thought was it looked very "Alpha", but thinking about the re-use of kit parts idea, the Alpha only came as a sheet of three, The Antares, however, came as a set of four.

This might also be the #1294 Cobra (same fin sheet, I think).


According to a part number search 032239 was used on Mean Machine and Stratocruiser. Both are in the current Estes Rockets media section as far as pdf is concerned. Which then gives us access to a model for which we do have scans,

http://www.spacemodeling.org/JimZ/estes/est1295.pdf

So by interpolation we can do this...

CPMcGraw 02-02-2011 05:11 PM

I think I remember a similar thread concerning these fins, and it may include the #1955 Ranger.

Green Dragon 02-02-2011 05:29 PM

I believe the Ranger was discused previously here on yorf, and was determined to use Vigilante fins ( also BT55 based ) .

Also the Comet used Vigilante fins.


if the part # quoted is what the White Tiger plans reference, I'd go with that, maybe build one up or at least mock up with a cardboard cutout and if it looks good ?

White Tiger was a very short lived, hence rare, kit.. I have to think they would have used that fin die over someplace, ( or got from a prior release ), although if the die was damaged, might be why it was only produced a short time ?

~ AL

CPMcGraw 02-02-2011 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Green Dragon
...I believe the Ranger was discused previously here on yorf, and was determined to use Vigilante fins ( also BT55 based ) .

Also the Comet used Vigilante fins...


Now that you mention it, I think you're you're right. They're similar in shape, but not identical in size.


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