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bernomatic 10-28-2011 02:12 AM

What I want for Christmas
 
All right everyone, sing with me!

All I want for Christmas...

http://www.rolanddg.com/news/nr111005_im-01.html

Couldn't find a price, :( but I want it and I'm gonna hold my breathe till I get it! :D

Rex R 10-28-2011 03:26 AM

might be one of those 'if you have to ask...you can't afford it' deals
only thing I could find was approx $1000 usd...
rex

jeffyjeep 10-28-2011 08:43 AM

I want a plane that loops the loop and a hula hoop. :D

bernomatic 10-28-2011 12:22 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rex R
might be one of those 'if you have to ask...you can't afford it' deals
only thing I could find was approx $1000 usd...
rex


I don't care I still want it :mad:

and I'll continue to hold my breathe :mad:

cause with it I can make all the fun nose cones, like for the Stealth, Firecat, Orion, Nova Scout ship, Falcon Commander, Vindicator, USSF Fireflash....

Improve Ram Jet nose cones for things like the Wolvwerine, Bomarc, Mini Bomarc....

stefanj 10-28-2011 12:37 PM

Sorry guys, you're not getting it.

Santa got fed up with the chaos and everyone is getting a pony this year.

jeffyjeep 10-28-2011 02:06 PM

I once got a talking pony for Christmas. Well, it was supposed to talk but it couldn't.


It was a little horse.

dyaugo 10-28-2011 03:43 PM

and I always wanted a pony :D

bernomatic 10-28-2011 03:48 PM

get it for me and I'll make ponies, litle horses durn, I'll even make zebras for you all and santa as well!

gpoehlein 10-28-2011 03:49 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by bernomatic
I don't care I still want it :mad:

and I'll continue to hold my breathe :mad:

cause with it I can make all the fun nose cones, like for the Stealth, Firecat, Orion, Nova Scout ship, Falcon Commander, Vindicator, USSF Fireflash....

Improve Ram Jet nose cones for things like the Wolvwerine, Bomarc, Mini Bomarc....


Gonna be some fairly small nose cones, though. The sales brochure says the unit is limited to 3.39" x 2.17" x 1.02". I'm thinking NC-50 or so is gonna be your biggest nose cone, and those will be limited to a bit less than 3-1/2" long. But those are also gonna be some heavy nose cones if you make them from plastic. Of course, it does say it will work in balsa, so you might be able to do some interesting stuff that way, but I'm thinking you'd pretty much need to do most nose cones as halves and glue them together. I can se this being really useful to someone who plans to use it to make intricate nose come shapes as a master, then making a slush cast mold from it. (it might even be possible to use it in reverse and clut your mold with it, but you'd have to find the right material to work with).

bernomatic 10-28-2011 04:11 PM

I was thinking mostly LPR as that is the area I'm most interested in. And if I used a plastic, drilling to hollow/lighten the item. But just using balsa or foam would be a start, then who knows from there?

blackshire 10-28-2011 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gpoehlein
Gonna be some fairly small nose cones, though. The sales brochure says the unit is limited to 3.39" x 2.17" x 1.02". I'm thinking NC-50 or so is gonna be your biggest nose cone, and those will be limited to a bit less than 3-1/2" long. But those are also gonna be some heavy nose cones if you make them from plastic. Of course, it does say it will work in balsa, so you might be able to do some interesting stuff that way, but I'm thinking you'd pretty much need to do most nose cones as halves and glue them together. I can see this being really useful to someone who plans to use it to make intricate nose come shapes as a master, then making a slush cast mold from it. (it might even be possible to use it in reverse and clut your mold with it, but you'd have to find the right material to work with).
Two thoughts:

[1] Cast polyurethane resin with hollow microballoons (microbulb filler) is light enough to float on water, so the nose cones--even if solid--need not be heavy. (If someone needed extra-heavy nose cones for ballast/balance purposes, the resin "blanks" could be filled with ceramic microspheres or metal powder to make them denser and heavier.) The nose cones (and boat-tails, body tube adapters, and even scale fins) could be machined out of "blanks" made of microballoon-filled resin (for lighter parts).

[2] Maybe those of us who want custom nose cones from Semroc could chip in as a group (along with Carl & Co., if they're interested) to buy one of these machines for/with Semroc? It wouldn't take long for us to order all of the custom parts (not just nose cones) that would make it worth our while (perhaps they could "pay" us in a certain number of free machine-made nose cones [and/or other parts] per subscriber).

bernomatic 10-28-2011 10:08 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by blackshire
Two thoughts:

[1] Cast polyurethane resin with microballoons (microbulb filler) is light enough to float on water. The nose cones (and boat-tails, body tube adapters, and even scale fins) could be machined out of "blanks" made of microballoon-filled resin.

[2] Maybe those of us who want custom nose cones from Semroc could chip in as a group (along with Carl & Co., if they're interested) to buy one of these machines for/with Semroc? It wouldn't take long for us to order all of the custom parts (not just nose cones) that would make it worth our while (perhaps they could "pay" us in a certain number of free nose cones per subscriber).

If we did something like that, I would suggest going with one of the larger machines. :) They also have a scanner function, so you can scan an original (oop?) nosecone and copy it. They also are capable of machining metal. Still under 5,000? I think

Then again, the whole reason I was on this company's web page in the first place was because I was following a link for a desktop printer which prints with white ink. It's way too pricey (it prints on anything, like cell phones , wallets etc.) but as long as I'm dreaming. ;)

stefanj 10-28-2011 10:10 PM

Quote:
Maybe those of us who want custom nose cones from Semroc could chip in as a group (along with Carl & Co., if they're interested) to buy one of these machines for/with Semroc?

Intriguing idea . . . would it be legal to copy the CAD software, so rocketeers could do the design work and submit the files to Carl & Co.?

blackshire 10-28-2011 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by stefanj
Intriguing idea . . . would it be legal to copy the CAD software, so rocketeers could do the design work and submit the files to Carl & Co.?
I don't know, but maybe (to avoid copyright problems if there are any) it could be set up in such a way that we could design our desired nose cones and/or other parts on a page on Semroc's web site, which we could save on that page, and then they could use the submitted file(s) to machine the part(s)? I think Semroc's custom nose cone designer already works this way (although my old computer can't seem to "get with the program" [no pun intended] to work with their nose cone designer). :-)

blackshire 10-28-2011 10:25 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by bernomatic
If we did something like that, I would suggest going with one of the larger machines. :) They also have a scanner function, so you can scan an original (oop?) nosecone and copy it. They also are capable of machining metal. Still under 5,000? I think
If a larger machine would be prohibitively expensive (which I don't know), a back-up option could be to machine larger nose cones in two or even three sections (tip-middle-base section) using the small machine, which could then be glued together.
Quote:
Originally Posted by bernomatic
Then again, the whole reason I was on this company's web page in the first place was because I was following a link for a desktop printer which prints with white ink. It's way too pricey (it prints on anything, like cell phones , wallets etc.) but as long as I'm dreaming. ;)
If they have a used "floor display model" in a showroom at their company headquarters, you might be able to get it for considerably less (I got a professional 4-head VCR cheaply that way).


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