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Tau Zero 02-10-2010 01:41 AM

Imaginary Kit Releases
 
This is STRICTLY UNOFFICIAL! :eek: :D :chuckle:

I'm playing "make believe," and I've been wondering *IF* I ever decided to release another one of my designs as a kit... which one it should be.


I've assembled 3 different lists:

1) Originals (which I'd seriously consider),

2) Possibilities (which would need some minor tweaking), and

3) Variations (which are my "takes" on other designs, and I probably *wouldn't* release them at all).


If you'd like to play along, I'll set up a poll so you can vote.


I'm also thinking that the design in question needs to be able to be upscaled ~175% for an SLS-type version, as well.

Again, THIS IS ALL STRICTLY SPECULATION!!! (So I don't wanna hear anybody griping about "Vaporware" that doesn't materialize.) I'm just doing (niche) market research, and that's all at this point.

The lists will follow.


Thanks for your consideration! :D :cool:

Tau Zero 02-10-2010 01:43 AM

Originals and Possibilities
 
ORIGINALS:

Argent

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showp...51&postcount=83

Pictures:
http://www.oldrocketforum.com/attac...achmentid=12583

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/attac...achmentid=12586


En Garde

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showthread.php?t=4713

Picture:
http://www.oldrocketforum.com/attac...achmentid=12927


Envoy

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showthread.php?t=5213

Picture:
http://www.oldrocketforum.com/attac...achmentid=14455


Epsilon 3

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showp...8&postcount=366

Pictures:
http://www.oldrocketforum.com/attac...achmentid=11582

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/attac...achmentid=11589


Mu-tator

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showp...5&postcount=694


Premonition

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showp...6&postcount=323

Picture:
http://www.oldrocketforum.com/attac...achmentid=11349


Prometheus

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showthread.php?t=4681

Pictures:
http://www.oldrocketforum.com/attac...achmentid=12804

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/attac...achmentid=12811


Seeker P-S

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showthread.php?t=4748

Picture:
http://www.oldrocketforum.com/attac...achmentid=13042


Sonar 7

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showp...9&postcount=270

Pictures:
http://www.oldrocketforum.com/attac...achmentid=11142


XPL Experimental

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showp...7&postcount=230

Picture:
http://www.oldrocketforum.com/attac...achmentid=10891


5820 D

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showp...1&postcount=255


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POSSIBILITIES:

Azteca

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showthread.php?t=4785


Tryton

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showp...7&postcount=144


Zeta

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showp...8&postcount=242

Picture:
http://www.oldrocketforum.com/attac...achmentid=11016

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Tau Zero 02-10-2010 01:52 AM

Variations
 
VARIATIONS:


Argo-C (variation on James Pierson's "Space Argosy")

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showp...4&postcount=127


Carrier Wave

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showp...0&postcount=197


Carrier Wave Jr.

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showp...9&postcount=196


Century 24.5

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showp...4&postcount=617


Guerrero (Babylon 5 "Drakh raider" variation)

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showp...3&postcount=180


Mars Voyager

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showp...2&postcount=136


Needler

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showthread.php?t=5169


Perpetrator

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showthread.php?t=4830


Perpetrator 1.41X

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showp...261&postcount=5


Vaquero

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showthread.php?t=4858

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jetlag 02-11-2010 04:50 AM

Jay, Your link for the pic of the Tryton shows us the Argo-C. FYI!
Allen

Tau Zero 02-11-2010 08:40 AM

Oopsie!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jetlag
Jay, Your link for the pic of the Tryton shows us the Argo-C. FYI!
Allen
Allen,

Thanks for catching that! :eek: :o ;) :D :cool:


All fixed now!

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Mark II 02-11-2010 07:54 PM

Jay, I just came across your Perpetrator design for the first time; I didn't see it last March when you posted it. I agree with Steve Naquin - its a Novatrator! (Or maybe an Orbitrator.) I can clearly envision George Roos creating this very design sometime in 1967 or '68. But really, ST-7/ST-8, eventually upscaled to ST-10/ST-13? Neither combination would have ever been done at FSI. They didn't start using a 0.756" diameter tube (RT-6) until around 1990, and they never used a 1" tube. If this had been designed by George Roos when he owned the company, it would have used RT-8 and RT-10 (equivalent to ST-8F and ST-11). If it had been designed by Lonnie Reese and released in 1974 or thereafter, it would have used RT-12 and RT-15 (equivalent to ST-13 and ST-16). Also, post-1974, it would have had a solid balsa transition, with the upper section serving as a payload section and the recovery system being deployed out of the lower section as in your first version. IOW, it would have been a Penetreos (or an Eostrator). :chuckle: Anyway, I like it! :D (But I'm sure that you must have already anticipated that! ;) ) Lately I have been thinking about creating an imaginary series of "FSI designs that were never produced." (Notice that I said "designs" not "kits," so no jokes, please. :rolleyes: ) You have already come up with one! :)

MarkII

Tau Zero 02-11-2010 10:00 PM

"When Worlds Collide..."
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark II
Jay, I just came across your Perpetrator design for the first time; I didn't see it last March when you posted it. I agree with Steve Naquin - its a Novatrator! [SNIP]

But really, ST-7/ST-8, eventually upscaled to ST-10/ST-13? Neither combination would have ever been done at FSI. [SNIP]

Also, post-1974, it would have had a solid balsa transition, with the upper section serving as a payload section and the recovery system being deployed out of the lower section as in your first version.
Mark,

Think of the FSI Penetrator colliding with the Centuri Excalibur. :eek: ;) :D (I'm sure you've seen my ~1.37X Excalibur ST-10/13 upscale elsewhere on this forum. )


Quote:
Anyway, I like it! :D (But I'm sure that you must have already anticipated that! ;) ) Lately I have been thinking about creating an imaginary series of "FSI designs that were never produced." (Notice that I said "designs" not "kits," so no jokes, please. :rolleyes: ) You have already come up with one! :)
Yes. But just *one.* (sly look)

Glad you like it! Thanks for playing!


Cheers,

mycrofte 03-20-2020 10:41 AM

Babylon 5
 
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Didn't know where else to put it. Being stuck in the house (watching B-5) and decided to do something different. Came up with a fin pattern for a BT-50.
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jetlag 03-20-2020 12:17 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by mycrofte
Didn't know where else to put it. Being stuck in the house (watching B-5) and decided to do something different. Came up with a fin pattern for a BT-50.
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ghrocketman 03-20-2020 12:41 PM

I vote for a MuTILator.


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