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Woody's Workshop 08-17-2015 09:32 AM

eRockets n SAM
 
I Emailed whom ever owns eRockets, have not heard back from him.
About if the SAM club is still available...
If so, is it for just Semroc items, or all that is on his site.
No response.
I was a SAM by default on $ per year.
He has many things I would like, but it's cheaper elsewhere.
So, what do I do?
Honor my loyality to Semroc?
Or spend elsewhere?
For non-Semroc items.
I want to see the SAM, it's like the old EAC from Estes as far as I'm concerned.
I got some great deals in the old days from Estes...
And loved the discounts from Semroc for my loyality.
What do you all say?

RocketRohde 08-17-2015 12:58 PM

The SAM club no longer exists. I'm not sure what email address you used, but Randy is usually pretty good about returning messages as long as you use the eRockets email (SEMROC email server is no longer on line). Not sure what you are finding "cheaper" elsewhere, but if it's only about the money, I'd say spend it wherever you want.

Also, I thing your poll needs a third choice, I'll buy as I please.

Woody's Workshop 08-18-2015 08:35 AM

I used the "Contact Me" on the erockets site.
Didn't mean to offend anyone, or suggest Randy over charges.
It was ment for a comparrison.
I miss the discount!

RocketRohde 08-18-2015 01:05 PM

Oh, don't misunderstand me, I miss it too. I'm convinced that Carl really wasn't in it for the money, he just wanted everyone to enjoy.

ghrocketman 08-18-2015 03:54 PM

Totally agree with Mike; Carl & family were not in it for the money; it was obvious to me he was in it for the love of golden era rockets and those with the same taste.
His company set the GOLD STANDARD for all other hobby companies.
I see no reason to doubt that for the most part Randy is continuing his tradition.

LeeR 08-19-2015 10:06 AM

I have no skin in this game. I was on a "model rocketry hiatus" when SAM came about. My biggest wish is that most of the great kits and parts selection continues with eRockets. I can only imagine what an undertaking it is to take over SEMROC's product line, move it, and get all the production up to speed.

Let's hope a few bucks in annual purchase savings doesn't discourage hobbyists from fully supporting eRockets. I do not believe we will ever see a company anywhere near the likes of SEMROC in terms of the breadth of product offerings, and level of customer support. (Some up and coming entrepreneur, or eRockets, make me eat my words. :) )

Sheryl@Semroc 09-03-2015 04:03 AM

eRocket/Sam
 
Hello everyone,

Carl restarted Semroc for the love he and Bruce had for rocketry. I will have to admit, we were able to pay our bills but we did not plan any fabulous vacations. Our vacations were the NARAM's and NARCON's. We had a wonderful time seeing our old friends and meeting new ones.

Bruce just came back from Ohio (eRockets/Semroc) and he was very impressed with Randy's progress getting Semroc up and running again. There were a few things he was able to show Randy's group that they didn't know. A few tools were a mystery as to what they were used for but they had figured out most of the tools Carl had made.

Randy is making a great effort to get the products Semroc had plus plans to expand the line. I believe he wants to make it a one-stop-shopping experience which Carl had plans to do.
As for myself, I know I couldn't have left Semroc in better hands.

Thank you again everyone,
Sheryl

LeeR 09-03-2015 09:00 PM

Sheryl,

I was looking at eRockets site, and noticed there were a lot more kits showing as "In Stock". That is great news.

Will the old website stick around? Unless eRockets moves over all the data, it is a great place to find references to body tubes, nose cones, and also the PDFs of kit instructions. I misplaced the hardcopy of the Mars Lander instructions, so I downloaded it off the old website.

You, Carl, and your family did such a great job of offering great products and amazing service to the model rocket community. It is good to hear (and see, by some of the pictures of Randy's operation), that it ended up in good hands.

doswonk 09-16-2015 01:04 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeR
Will the old website stick around? Unless eRockets moves over all the data, it is a great place to find references to body tubes, nose cones, and also the PDFs of kit instructions. I misplaced the hardcopy of the Mars Lander instructions, so I downloaded it off the old website.


Hey Lee, I can't provide a direct link, but I believe I've read several times that Randy at New Semroc has promised to keep the old site up just so all the old reference material will stay available to guys like us who find it super valuable.

Every time I made an order, then got the full SAM and NAR member discounts and saw the final total, I'd ask myself "How in the heck are these folks making enough to stay in business?" Carl and Sheryl and Bruce did, obviously, but I would've placed the same orders just the same, even if I didn't get a discount.

Well....maybe the discount did encourage me to add a few more items.... ;)

LeeR 09-16-2015 02:05 PM

Thanks Lawrence. While it might not make financial sense to keep the old site around long term, it does make sense to at least keep all the reference material over to a "Semroc Archive" section of the eRockets website.

Not taking anything for granted, I've downloaded most of the plans I'm interested in having. And I have gone back a few times and added "just 1 or 2 more".

Woody's Workshop 09-16-2015 02:36 PM

I too am in the process of saving all the .pdf instruction and the RocSims, since I have RocSim.
Making little changes will be much easier, like switching out an engine mount, or adding an av bay. Randy is doing really well will getting more kits out and parts too.
I will miss those white boxes stamped Semroc though!
It was like, hit the buy now, walk to the door and the box was there.
Randy responded to an email I sent him. He is not doing the SAM, but he said he had something else in mind he's going to put in place before the end of this year.
Yeupeeee!

Scott6060842 09-16-2015 02:52 PM

I miss the old SEMROC site that Carl built where you could pull up a parts list and click on the parts to add them to the cart. I miss the free fast shipping. I miss the SAM discounts and the Xmas sales. I miss the exceptional customer service. I miss the white boxes.

I'm sorry if I offend anyone but e-rocket's ain't SEMROC ... not even close.

sandman 10-31-2015 09:49 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott6060842
I miss the old SEMROC site that Carl built where you could pull up a parts list and click on the parts to add them to the cart. I miss the free fast shipping. I miss the SAM discounts and the Xmas sales. I miss the exceptional customer service. I miss the white boxes.

I'm sorry if I offend anyone but e-rocket's ain't SEMROC ... not even close.


I miss Carl!

BARGeezer 05-25-2018 03:58 PM

I can't take the poll because I don't believe either of the two choices are accurate: Erockets prices are reasonable. Not the cheapest around but not the most expensive either. Hey a business has to make a reasonable profit to continue, right. As for SAM members and the discount, the SAM club folded when the original Semroc did. Not realistic to expect Randy (Boadway, owner) to continue that. About a year ago I asked Randy via email whether he considered a "Rewards Points" type discount for frequent customers, since I order there frequently. He replied that any kind of discount program will have to wait until they are consistently profitable. Seems like they aren't there yet. His recent overhaul of kit offerings should help by eliminating slow sellers and replacing them with new kit offerings. Maybe then he can start a new club or discount program.

ghrocketman 05-25-2018 06:45 PM

One of the best things about Carl/Sheryl/Bruce Semroc was the almost never discontinuation of kits. The Saturn 1B and the entire SLS line should be in the perpetual untouchable category. Wish we could have got the K-21 Gemini Titan and the Nike Ajax back.
While Semroc still exists within eRockets, it's a FAR CRY from what Carl & company created.

Sheryl@Semroc 05-26-2018 12:44 AM

eRockets n SAM
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ghrocketman
One of the best things about Carl/Sheryl/Bruce Semroc was the almost never discontinuation of kits. The Saturn 1B and the entire SLS line should be in the perpetual untouchable category. Wish we could have got the K-21 Gemini Titan and the Nike Ajax back.
While Semroc still exists within eRockets, it's a FAR CRY from what Carl & company created.


What a wonderful compliment, ghrocketman. Thank you very much. Please give eRockets a chance. Randy is more the business man than Carl was. Carl put pleasing people at top of the priority list instead of profit. It took us about 5 years to see any profit, learning how to use materials without so much waste.

Carl kept most kits in production because "someone might want one", his words. We just didn't make many kits to replenish the stock if a certain kit was not a good seller.

Sheryl

UMRS 07-30-2018 06:30 AM

You and Carl are still the GOLD standard


Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheryl@Semroc
What a wonderful compliment, ghrocketman. Thank you very much. Please give eRockets a chance. Randy is more the business man than Carl was. Carl put pleasing people at top of the priority list instead of profit. It took us about 5 years to see any profit, learning how to use materials without so much waste.

Carl kept most kits in production because "someone might want one", his words. We just didn't make many kits to replenish the stock if a certain kit was not a good seller.

Sheryl

mojo1986 07-30-2018 10:30 AM

Yeah, when Carl, Sheryl and Bruce were born they broke the moulds. I'm in Canada and Carl was SO FAIR that, although shipping here was more expensive and I didn't get free shipping, Carl deducted the amount it cost him to ship to you guys in the US from my shipping charge! So I got the same benefit that you guys did. Now, who else ever did that?! Honestly, there will never be another like him.


Joe

ghrocketman 07-30-2018 01:07 PM

You got that right for sure, Joe.
We most likely will never see the likes of the original Semroc team of Carl, Sheryl, and Bruce ever again. Real hobbyists first and business owners second.
Best of the best.

UMRS 07-30-2018 08:49 PM

Amen

Woody's Workshop 07-31-2018 05:54 AM

I always like the white boxes with Semroc on them.
I sold some stuff to K'Tesh a while back and he had me send it to Randy at eRockets for when he gets back from China.
I used the last Semroc box I had saved. I would have liked to see the look on Randy's face when he got shipped box with Semroc on it, lol.


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