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tbzep 03-15-2019 02:47 PM

It's cool to see how the K-36 goes together compared to the 2001 version and the Centuri KS-12 (5142). Pics are better than looking at old plans.

ghrocketman 03-15-2019 04:11 PM

Hope you don't plan on flying it if you kept the ejection point of the build as per absurd instructions.

scigs30 03-17-2019 03:04 PM

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Trust me I plan on flying her.
Getting closer to painting, just have to glue the fins on and some other details. The plans call for painting the white and black then adding a lot of the details to ease in masking. Since the paper parts are pretty old, I really don't want to mess with cutting and scraping the paint so I may just glue everything on now and deal with the masking later. The large paper wrap makes it pretty easy to mark where all the detail go.

ghrocketman 03-17-2019 05:22 PM

If you fly it on an Aerotech Composite E30 or F32 it will probably eject the laundry.
If you use a D12 or E12 don't be surprised if you get a "Lawn Dart".

scigs30 05-01-2019 08:18 PM

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I am slowly plugging on with this old vintage Saturn V and she is now ready for primer. The balsa fins and tunnels have 3 coats of balsa sealer. The half round balsa tunnels were warped and out of shape, but that is what you get with an old vintage kit.

ghrocketman 05-01-2019 10:39 PM

I cannot state it emphatically enough how bad the K36/1236 recovery separation point SUCKS.
Modify it to the Centuri/Estes 2001 separation point and you WILL thank yourself.

scigs30 06-03-2019 06:42 PM

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I finally had a nice couple of days to paint, so first I lightly sprayed on fine grey primer followed by Old Formula Krylon white. What a large rocket but I tried to go easy on the paint. Now the fun part, masking for black and silver.

timorley 06-03-2019 06:46 PM

Looking very nice!

zielijo1 07-09-2019 07:16 PM

Vintage build
 
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Originally Posted by ghrocketman
Agree about deployment.
Do NOT have it deploy the laundry at the capsule separation point of the original K36.
On a single D12 it WILL fail to eject.
Have it separate the "Centuri" way if you intend to fly it.


Hi, this is a Centuri kit, built maybe 20 yrs ago. It has the plastic wraps not paper. I will fly for anniversary but using a D12. Can you clarify the separate Centuri way. The Estes capsule separation was at the tower/ capsule?
I can do a 3 C6 cluster but the summer camp w kids may not be too savvy, plus I haven’t flown one in years, unless there is a guaranteed igniter setup

I read a post where they converted the engines to use the display nozzles but can only find the pics not the thread.
I also can’t figure how to attach pics here
Thanks, I’m scheduled to fly next week
Joe

tbzep 07-10-2019 06:41 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by zielijo1
Hi, this is a Centuri kit, built maybe 20 yrs ago. It has the plastic wraps not paper. I will fly for anniversary but using a D12. Can you clarify the separate Centuri way. The Estes capsule separation was at the tower/ capsule?
I can do a 3 C6 cluster but the summer camp w kids may not be too savvy, plus I haven’t flown one in years, unless there is a guaranteed igniter setup

I read a post where they converted the engines to use the display nozzles but can only find the pics not the thread.
I also can’t figure how to attach pics here
Thanks, I’m scheduled to fly next week
Joe

The original Estes K-36 separates at the capsule. The Estes #2001 (paper shrouds) separates at the same place as your Centuri kit, as does the latter Estes #2157 and #1969 kits (plastic shrouds).

Stick with the single D12-3 (if that's how it is built) for the demo launch at summer camp. It will look good, lift off slower (more scale like) and the kids can see the ejection better. If it's built as a cluster, you don't have much choice, either 3 C6's or 3 B6's. Make sure you use a good 12v ignition source and check your igniters before installing them.


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