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tbzep 11-12-2018 07:04 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by the mole
A little more from John. "I would say it's a little more robust then before but it's much easier to build now."

John Boren

Translation, 29mm mount. ;)

Shreadvector 11-12-2018 10:57 AM

Catalog says 24mm. Of course, that could have changed, like the product number......



2157 Apollo II Saturn V Scale 1/100th
Length: 43.25 in (110 cm)
Diameter: 3.94 in (100 mm)
Estimated Weight: 11 oz (311.8 g)
Fins: Plastic
Recovery: 3 Parachutes
Projected Altitude: 150 ft (46 m)
Recommended Engines: E12-4* (first
launch), Composite E30-4*
Requires 3/16 in (5 mm) Maxi™ launch
rod (2244), sold separately.

Scott_650 11-12-2018 02:55 PM

With the still cataloged and very popular LJII using the same composite E30 motor as shown for the Saturn V a 29mm version probably isn’t happening. But wouldn’t it be awesome if it came with a 29mm motor mount and included a 24mm adapter? Can’t wait to have mine in-hand and see if that mod is a practical possibility...

ghrocketman 11-12-2018 08:48 PM

Mine will definitely be 29mm powered whether it comes in the kit or not.
That is the MINIMUM reasonable mount for any 4" diameter rocket.

Earl 11-12-2018 11:01 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by the mole
John has posted on the other forum. The other Saturn V was briefly shown at the NARAM 60 manufacturers forum. It will be a 1/200 scale model, all molded in plastic and completely painted and ready to fly other then attaching the parachute.

"So the wraps will be new?"

Other then the new injection molded fins that made it into the last release every other piece of plastic is new. There is in fact a completely New plastic item that will make the build much easier while adding more scale detail. The capsule and escape tower are a piece of cake to assemble now. This version should be a more accurate version of the Apollo 11 launch vehicle.

John Boren



I think possibly the "completely new plastic item" John referenced in the quote above is a new spacecraft/lunar module adapter ('SLA') that is a one-piece unit and not the 'curl and glue' paper adapter that has been used historically in the past Centuri and Estes kits of the Saturn V.

Here's a hint: If you have the latest issue of Sport Rocketry magazine (Nov/Dec 2018; mine came sometime last week but I had not looked at it in great detail until earlier this eve), take a look at the full-page Estes ad on the inside front cover. If the graphic of the Saturn V in that ad is in keeping with the upcoming kit release, one can see much more surface detail in the SLA than any prior Centuri or Estes version of this kit. So, possibly the SLA is now a light-weight, one-piece plastic section.

Just a guess to add to the 'speculation' pile....


Earl

Royatl 11-13-2018 03:36 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by tbzep
Translation, 29mm mount. ;)


no that was actually in response to a question about the escape tower.

Royatl 11-13-2018 03:39 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shreadvector
Catalog says 24mm. Of course, that could have changed, like the product number......



2157 Apollo II Saturn V Scale 1/100th
Length: 43.25 in (110 cm)
Diameter: 3.94 in (100 mm)
Estimated Weight: 11 oz (311.8 g)
Fins: Plastic
Recovery: 3 Parachutes
Projected Altitude: 150 ft (46 m)
Recommended Engines: E12-4* (first
launch), Composite E30-4*
Requires 3/16 in (5 mm) Maxi™ launch
rod (2244), sold separately.



nothing has ever stopped anyone from putting a larger mount in the Centuri or Estes Saturn Vs.

One of our club members in MASER had a 29 mm mount in his Centuri Saturn V in 1970. Flew nicely on FSI F100 motors. AFAIK he never flew it on Centuri MiniMax or Enerjets, the F100 was just perfect.

Royatl 11-13-2018 03:41 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Earl
I think possibly the "completely new plastic item" John referenced in the quote above is a new spacecraft/lunar module adapter ('SLA') that is a one-piece unit and not the 'curl and glue' paper adapter that has been used historically in the past Centuri and Estes kits of the Saturn V.

Here's a hint: If you have the latest issue of Sport Rocketry magazine (Nov/Dec 2018; mine came sometime last week but I had not looked at it in great detail until earlier this eve), take a look at the full-page Estes ad on the inside front cover. If the graphic of the Saturn V in that ad is in keeping with the upcoming kit release, one can see much more surface detail in the SLA than any prior Centuri or Estes version of this kit. So, possibly the SLA is now a light-weight, one-piece plastic section.

Just a guess to add to the 'speculation' pile....


Earl


I'd rather have the SII interstage done that way than the SLA, but both would be nice.

tbzep 11-13-2018 06:52 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Royatl
no that was actually in response to a question about the escape tower.

You're takin all the fun out of it. :D
I keep mentioning 29mm mount, but I'd never put one in one of mine. I like mine to fly on classic BP power. I did my interchangeable mount so I could switch back and forth from cluster to D12 power with an option for FSI motors if I ever came across any. Never came across any until after I retired the model.

rocket.aero 11-13-2018 08:19 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by tbzep
...switch back and forth from cluster to D12 power ...


Clustering is great as long as reliable igniters are available. I cannot imagine Estes offering a cluster product as long as the current igniter/starter product is included with their motors.

James


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