Originally Posted by Jerry Irvine

The Phoenix Bird had thin wall ST-13 tubes and the Enerjet 1340 had thicker wall, perhaps Minimax or custom tubing, that being the only kit I recall seeing it. TWO different nose cone and coupler molds! The 1340 fins came red and the Phoenix Bird Blue and later other colors. Same mold. Lee once discussed the mold in great detail with me and mentioned several ways he wished he changed the design to improve strength and manufacturability.

They always gave spare PB's for retail demos we did and public displays like football halftime shows, fairs, and air shows. We were outreach gods.

MPC gave a lot of "Moon Go's", Centuri "Phoenix Birds", and Estes "Big Berthas".

On that BEAUTIFUL Phoenix Bird photo, the first one has a Nike-Ram plastic nose cone, the second a Phoenix Bird nose cone and the third would be an Enerjet 1340 nose cone if it were red plastic and for thicker wall tube. The 1340 coupler has a band in the middle so that looks original. I want 10,000 parts from that mold.

Jerry

Polaris Section 193 Claremont, CA

Originally Posted by Ltvscout

Is the Estes Eliminator (Maniac in different colors) OOP now? If not, just use the parts from one of those.

Originally Posted by Initiator001

Back when I was building my 1340 clones, I contacted Estes and spoke to Christine about the plastic parts I needed.

She said they (Estes) was out of the Eliminator parts but there were leftover parts from the two-stage Longshot kit (Same parts, different color (black)).

So, for less than thirty dollars (Including shipping) I received four sets of fin cans and nose cones. That same amount of money would buy me one Eliminator kit at SRP.

Originally Posted by Ltvscout

I bought up a number of Long Shot's a few years back just to have a stockpile of the fin cans and cones.

Originally Posted by ghrocketman

Here we go again with announcements that don't come to fruition.
I'll believe in those kits when I have them in my hand and not until.