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Old 07-31-2010, 03:15 PM
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Hi, Jeff,

Yes, it's brush on. It's alcohol based, so it dries fast, but pick up some ethanol for clean-up. The Zinsser is about 10$/quart, but equal to many, many $4 cans of spray primer. It's also available in a spray can, but I don't like it - it comes out way too fast.

When brushing it on, because it dries fast, you will get brush strokes if you don't keep your brush wet.

I like to put it down as the first layer over the balsa and paper after the glues (& glass, if applicable). I then put the FnF (filler) over the Zinsser for fillets and for filling the grain and spirals. In fact, I've gotten to where I just about don't even bother with the grain and spirals. With a couple coats of rattle can primer over the Zinsser, most of that stuff is filled.

There is no sure fire one-coat grain filler. It comes down to how picky you are. I find that nearly four fill/sand passes are needed to completely fill balsa no matter what I use. Sometimes I use Zinsser, then thinned FnF, then rattle can primer, then touch up with more FnF followed by more rattle can; sometimes it's two coats of Zinsser, then two coats of rattle can; sometimes it's something else Sometimes, I just put one coat of primer down, then paint. I can make it look like molded plastic when I'm in the mood, but, as they say, there comes a time to shoot the engineers and start production, or, in our case, fly that mutha

I did have one lady ask me at a launch years ago if my rocket was made of plastic I explained that it was balsa and paper. She got quite wide eyed after that




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Thanks so much for this info, Doug!
Yes, the artistic side of me needs to chill a bit due to the reality of rockets-they may be lost or burned. I ended up cutting new ones (my first time ever doing this), elmering-fiiler them with a few coats and priming. I forgot about a can of Duplicolor grey lacquer primer so I just sprayed a few coats onto the balsa first to act as a barrier and hardener which has worked well so far. So, next the fillets using titebond molding-trim glue and painting. After U use up this primer, the Zissner stuff sounds like a great idea. Thanks again, Doug and to everyone else who responded! Jeff.
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Old 07-31-2010, 11:09 PM
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I generally throw two coats of cheap primer (red oxide, then gray over the top, if I have any red oxide), a light sanding to take off the fuzzy bits, then FnF wherever the rocket has significant seams. Then I begin sanding and priming in earnest.

Oddly, I also find that I have to sand a rocket about 4 times to get it smooth enough and hide the seams. Perhaps we're picky or something.
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