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CPMcGraw 08-21-2010 01:22 PM

New Design -- SRV Feynman
 
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AKA "Feynman Probe"... :D

I've had this idea of a forward-pod type of design for some time, and have presented many variations here in the past. This one has moderate to high Dv numbers, but still within the safe region for the average run. It took some tweaking and trimming to get it to this point, but I think it's ready to reveal...

Length: 28.00"
Diameter: 1.04" (ST-10)
Fin Span: 4.54"
Weight: 1.68 oz


B6-4......394'......Dv 9 FPS
C6-5......840'......Dv 21 FPS


All engines reach flight V on a standard 36" x a/8" rod.

Enjoy!

Feyd 08-21-2010 04:10 PM

Is this rear ejection? It looks great but very fragile.

CPMcGraw 08-21-2010 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Feyd
Is this rear ejection? It looks great but very fragile.


Sorta-almost... :o

The rear body tube separates at the base of the nose cone. The entire forward body, including the spindly posts, remains as one piece. It might be a good idea to use an extra-long Kevlar thread to connect the two sections, perhaps 5 or 6 feet long. It might also be a good idea to attach the parachute closer to the lower body than to the upper body, allowing the upper body to hang well below the canopy.

And yes, it is somewhat fragile, but it should land relatively gently with the 16" parachute. RockSim suggests that the landing velocity (Vl) is about 11 FPS with a C6-5. Empty, RockSim says the Vl is about 9.9 FPS. That's better than most of our models under normal conditions.

I may just have to build this one to satisfy my curiosity...

CPMcGraw 08-21-2010 04:36 PM

...And as I look again at the RKT file, I just noticed something strange that I did not see when I posted it earlier. The margin number with a C6-7 has dropped below the minimum of 1.00 -- it's currently at 0.48, which RockSim says is 'marginal'.

I'll tweak it a bit to get the margin back up above 1.00...

CPMcGraw 08-21-2010 05:13 PM

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OK, here's the Mk II version.

Changes:
  • Increased the main fins 10% (span is now 4.89", was 4.54").
  • Lengthened the forward tube to 7" (was 5" long).
  • Moved the forward pod farther, to 21.5" ahead of the rear NC (was 20").
  • Moved the forward pylons 0.5" farther forward.

The new specs on this design are as follows:

Length: 29.50"
Diameter: 1.04" (ST-10)
Fin Span: 4.89"
Weight: 1.76 oz


B6-4......369'......Dv 13 FPS
C6-5......816'......Dv 22 FPS


All engines still reach flight V on a 36" x 1/8" standard rod.

Sorry for the confusion... :o :D

pantherjon 08-22-2010 09:46 AM

Looks kewl:cool: Rear eject..sorta?:chuckle: I thought that you had some quantum physics means of getting the ejection gases up to the upper tube.Going for the 'particle entanglement' change method?

You do know of Richard Feynman?

CPMcGraw 08-22-2010 01:04 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by pantherjon
Looks kewl:cool: Rear eject..sorta?:chuckle: I thought that you had some quantum physics means of getting the ejection gases up to the upper tube.Going for the 'particle entanglement' change method?

You do know of Richard Feynman?


Yeah, somewhat...

He blew everyone away on the Rodgers' Commission looking into the Challenger accident when he dunked that piece of O-ring into his water glass and showed how the rubber lost its ability to make a complete seal when the temperature dropped down to 32-34 degrees.

Sealed the issue for everyone who had been second-guessing the engineers...

pantherjon 08-22-2010 04:44 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by CPMcGraw
Yeah, somewhat...

He blew everyone away on the Rodgers' Commission looking into the Challenger accident when he dunked that piece of O-ring into his water glass and showed how the rubber lost its ability to make a complete seal when the temperature dropped down to 32-34 degrees.

Sealed the issue for everyone who had been second-guessing the engineers...


Different Feynman..This is the Richard Feynman I was referring to. He died in 1988. :o

tbzep 08-22-2010 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CPMcGraw
SRV Feynman
AKA "Feynman Probe"...


So you named it after a Texas blues man (Stevie Ray Vaughn) and a physicist? :eek: :cool:

JRThro 08-22-2010 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by pantherjon
Different Feynman..This is the Richard Feynman I was referring to. He died in 1988. :o

No, that's the same guy. The Challenger disaster was in 1986.


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