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dlazarus6660
02-22-2011, 04:06 PM
I poking around in Fee-bay looking for a deal(yeah right) and came across the BSG Viper Starhound. I have never seen this BSG Viper version before. Anyone have anything more on this Viper?

Here is the link.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Colonial-Starhound-Viper-Battlestar-Wood-Model-XXL-/200534363230?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb0c78c5e

luke strawwalker
02-22-2011, 04:36 PM
Well, at first I thought it was the old starfighter seen in the original series episode "The Long Patrol" but I was mistaken... after looking it up online, the ship seen in that episode was referred to as a "sixth millenium starfighter" and I grabbed a pic of it below, so it clearly wasn't that. Might have to do some more research to find this thing...

Later! OL JR :)

luke strawwalker
02-22-2011, 04:40 PM
Here's something...

http://feggula.0dollarwebspace.com/bsgstarblazers/col-fig6.gif

From this page...

http://feggula.0dollarwebspace.com/bsgstarblazers/indexcolorgsmall.html

Later! OL JR :)

luke strawwalker
02-22-2011, 04:47 PM
It's probably to be found somewhere in all this...

http://feggula.0dollarwebspace.com/bsgstarblazers/index.html

Either that, or maybe it was a prototype for a filming model-- maybe a Viper concept that didn't get picked for the filming of the series... I dunno...

Course maybe it's still out there on the web waiting to be found...

Later! OL JR :)

dlazarus6660
02-22-2011, 05:49 PM
Well that was interesting! Starhound seems to be the designation for most Vipers.
Well looks like I have a Viper to build. Too many Vipers, not enough time!

Good find OL JR! :)

luke strawwalker
02-23-2011, 12:04 AM
Your welcome...

If you find out anything else about this model, please post!

I'm betting it's one of those 'role playing' game models or fanfiction stuff or something like that... it MIGHT be a filming model prototype, but I'm kinda doubting it...

Years ago I got some books about different star ship designs from Star Trek... many were different ships seen on-screen like the Excelsior, the Defiant, the Stargazer, the Reliant, etc... but there were many others in there never seen on screen, mostly from/for role playing games I guess... maybe some based on film model concepts, some just 'out of the blue' I guess...

Later! OL JR :)

kevinj
02-23-2011, 09:28 AM
Not a filming model, but definitely some sort of non canon design. From all the shows there were a very limited number of on screen ships. This particular model appears to be a variant that never made an appearance.

kj

UMRS
02-23-2011, 03:43 PM
There going to run into trouble. There offering to manufacturer after sale (30 days). Thats against Ebay policy.

mycrofte
02-23-2011, 08:36 PM
It is either just made up or a concept that never got on screen. From some of the stuff I've read about BSG and other sci-fi shows. The budget forces them to use a lot more stock footage than they would like...

dlazarus6660
02-23-2011, 08:44 PM
There going to run into trouble. There offering to manufacturer after sale (30 days). Thats against Ebay policy.

Anyone would be NUTZ to order one of these!
Unless, there are some of you who seceretly want one of these unique models and you want to donate money that you don't have to purchase one of these models for the sole purpose of "CLONING" a flying model rocket.

Me Thinks!

luke strawwalker
02-24-2011, 10:14 AM
Not a filming model, but definitely some sort of non canon design. From all the shows there were a very limited number of on screen ships. This particular model appears to be a variant that never made an appearance.

kj

I kinda figured it wasn't a filming model, because I've never seen it on film (at least the ORIGINAL BSG, which I've watched every one of probably ten times at least-- dunno about the "new" BSG, which I found SO uninteresting and weird that I couldn't finish watching a single episode-- why do modern idiots have to take a perfectly good classic show and muck it up trying to 'reimagine' it... most of these morons doing these shows wouldn't be fit to light Glen Larson's cigar... (rant off).

Anyway, though, they DO often build a number of various ships for filming/ screen tests and some are accepted and some are rejected... some look good on screen or have a certain 'panache' the brass are looking for, some just don't make the cut... For every ship design you see on screen in any of the Star Wars movies, there are probably 3-4 prototypes that didn't make the grade... some end up like the shuttle model Luke was playing with in "A New Hope" while he was in the shop cleaning the droids and end up on screen as toys or models of "real" ships, but most don't. Course I'm not claiming that it IS one of these 'unaccepted designs' just that it's possible... there was a lot of cross-pollination between BSG and Buck Rogers, since both were done by Glen Larson.... I didn't know that the Earth Forces Starfighter started out as the original proposal for the Viper... that's neat. The BSG shuttles also turned up on Buck Rogers...

Course then there's the fan-fiction stuff, and role playing games and such that tend to produce prolific amounts of stuff, most of it weird and ungainly, but some of it is pretty inventive and looks neat... There's an "X-wing" Viper over on that site listed above with all the role-playing ships in there... think classic Viper with an extra pair of inverted lower wings sticking out above the existing lower wings... kinda neat looking...

Later! OL JR :)

luke strawwalker
02-24-2011, 10:20 AM
Anyone would be NUTZ to order one of these!
Unless, there are some of you who seceretly want one of these unique models and you want to donate money that you don't have to purchase one of these models for the sole purpose of "CLONING" a flying model rocket.

Me Thinks!

Yeah, I don't get the whole "mahogany non-flying models at enormous prices" thing...

Most of them are of subjects that have been made as model rockets or plastic model kits (or paper models for that matter) and could be found at a FRACTION of the price they're asking for the 'wood models'.

Cloning this type of thing wouldn't be that difficult... Just look at the pic, sketch out what you want to do, and whip one up... It's not like it's a scaler or anything-- heck never being on film, you don't even have to get the "fidelity" just right to make it look like what everyone remembers seeing on screen... Things you don't like can be changed...

Later! OL JR :)

luke strawwalker
02-24-2011, 10:26 AM
This is probably one of the most visually interesting and "toughest" looking sci-fi fighter craft I've ever seen... DEFINITELY the coolest one on BRIT25C...

Like a Hind helicopter, you don't want to see this thing coming your way... it just LOOKS like it's 'bringing the pain'.... :D

http://www.universalhartland.com/code/buck101s.shtml

Later! OL JR :)

EchoVictor
02-24-2011, 11:01 AM
I absolutely loved that design when I watched BR as a kid. So much so that I didn't fully realize that my brain was most likely channeling that look when I designed this;

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i204/EchoVictor/Rocket%20Stuff/100_2155.jpg

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showthread.php?t=6929

Just picked up the BR series on DVD recently, and as soon as I saw that ship again, I realized what I had done....

Later,
EV

luke strawwalker
02-24-2011, 11:21 AM
Oh, and there's this page that has the "Thunder fighter" early prototype near the bottom... with the canards...

http://www.universalhartland.com/code/buck003t.shtml

Later! OL JR :)

luke strawwalker
02-24-2011, 11:25 AM
I absolutely loved that design when I watched BR as a kid. So much so that I didn't fully realize that my brain was most likely channeling that look when I designed this;

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i204/EchoVictor/Rocket%20Stuff/100_2155.jpg

http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showthread.php?t=6929

Just picked up the BR series on DVD recently, and as soon as I saw that ship again, I realized what I had done....

Later,
EV


VERY KEWL!!!

I chopped an old Apache helicopter plastic model and using a Reynold's wrap tube, some toilet paper rolls, and some balsa, along with a few sacrificed BIC STIC pens (for the "rocket pods" on the ends of the wings) and a toothpick-made Gatling gun under the chin, I made a crude copy of this model back in the late 80's. I was looking for it upstairs at Grandma's, as that's where most of my plastic models and rocket stuff ended up, but I don't think it survived, sadly.

Just might have to make a flying model of this one... It's just too cool... :)

I love your rendition of it... it'll have to be longer than the original BRIT25C model to be aerodynamically stable.

Later! OL JR :)

luke strawwalker
02-24-2011, 11:28 AM
I absolutely loved that design when I watched BR as a kid. So much so that I didn't fully realize that my brain was most likely channeling that look when I designed this;


http://www.oldrocketforum.com/showthread.php?t=6929

Just picked up the BR series on DVD recently, and as soon as I saw that ship again, I realized what I had done....

Later,
EV


Looking at yer avatar, which is a "satellite killer" or something like that (old Centuri kit??) seems like you might be channeling a lot... LOL:)

http://www.universalhartland.com/code/buck107t.shtml

Later! OL JR :)

EchoVictor
02-24-2011, 01:39 PM
Yeah, my avatar is indeed the Centuri kit #5345 - Satellite Killer. Always been my favorite rocket design from the 80's....

Later,
EV