New Goon

[A Fish Named Wallyum]

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s286/Wallyum/001-1.jpg

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s286/Wallyum/002-1.jpg

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s286/Wallyum/003-1.jpg

Anyone care to take a guess as to which full size rocket it's based on? :rolleyes: :D

[Vanel]

#1271 Renegade?

[A Fish Named Wallyum]

#1271 Renegade?

Close. ReneGOON. :D ;)
Good eye. :cool:

[Mark II]

#1325 Gamma?

MarkII

[A Fish Named Wallyum]

#1325 Gamma?

MarkII

No, Bill got it. He just didn't include the obvious Goony name change. :D

[Mark II]

No, Bill got it. He just didn't include the obvious Goony name change. :D
I was "researching" an answer and didn't see your response to Bill's post until after I posted mine.

I'm looking forward to seeing what you do with the design. :D

MarkII

[A Fish Named Wallyum]

I was "researching" an answer and didn't see your response to Bill's post until after I posted mine.

I'm looking forward to seeing what you do with the design. :D

MarkII

So little that it will be almost not worth talking about. :o The fins are the normal size for the 2+ foot tall bird, which struck me as being quite goony. I just need to decide where to do the sep line between the red and black paint and have Sandman run off a set of "renegoon" decals when he's up and running. I've got two more planned for this weekend, both of which will take a bit more planning, but both of which will a) look quite a bit cooler, and b) allow me to make my own decals.

[CPMcGraw]

Ahem... :D

BARCLONE Renegoon, from 2006: ORIGINAL POST (http://forums.rocketshoppe.com/showpost.php?p=7987&postcount=381)

I'm sure this version isn't original, but I haven't seen another version built anywhere...

Bill, let us know how good it flies. It should be about like the Thunder Goon...

[snaquin]

The fins are the normal size for the 2+ foot tall bird, which struck me as being quite goony.

Quite goony! I'll bet if you recovered the nose cone separately with a streamer the rest might just glide down making for even goonier flights ..... :cool:

{I had an original Estes Red Max that did that}

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[JRThro]

Quite goony! I'll bet if you recovered the nose cone separately with a streamer the rest might just glide down making for even goonier flights ..... :cool:

{I had an original Estes Red Max that did that}

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Ooh! That would be a cool recovery mode, both for this goony and for any other rockets.

[Doug Sams]

Ooh! That would be a cool recovery mode, both for this goony and for any other rockets.You can rig boosters to do that. The Centuri Black Widow booster would glide back: http://www.ninfinger.org/rockets/catalogs/centuri71d/71dcen36.html

All this goon talk has me thinking about doing one of my own. Anybody know where I can get a decal of Hervé Villechaize?

Keep in mind that having the sustainer glide back from apogee could result in significant transverse travel - you could have a long walk for recovery.

Here's a scratch built booster I had which would (unintentionally) glide back (when it wasn't catoing http://forums.rocketshoppe.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif ). Doug.

http://www.doug79.com/supergee/Dougs_Cato.jpg

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[JRThro]

Keep in mind that having the sustainer glide back from apogee could result in significant transverse travel - you could have a long walk for recovery.
If the intent is to have glide recovery, then significant transverse travel is the object of the exercise, isn't it? And then significant exercise is the object of the recovery. And so on.

So... a weighted nose cone, two large fins out of three or four, and voila!

And now, back to Bill's regularly scheduled topic.

[Doug Sams]

If the intent is to have glide recovery, then significant transverse travel is the object of the exercise, isn't it? My perspective is that typical rocket gliders burn out at fairly low alitudes, and thus will usually come down within reasonable range. But a rocket that gets 800' or 1200' and then turns into a glider poses a dramatically different recovery scenario. Just tracking it in the sky right after ejection is an iffy proposition.

Granted, the glide/slope ratio of a gliding airframe likely ain't as good as a purpose built glider, but assuming a mere 5:1, the 1200' altitude could result in over a mile walk, each way. That's a distance more in line with HPR than MR.

I suppose that, if one designed an airframe to glide, one could go the next step and make it turn as well, thus getting it to make a corkscrew on the way down instead of flying away like my CiCi2 sustainer did a couple years ago http://forums.rocketshoppe.com/images/smilies/redface.gif

Doug

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[Ltvscout]

I suppose that, if one designed an airframe to glide, one could go the next step and make it turn as well, thus getting it to make a corkscrew on the way down instead of flying away like my CiCi2 sustainer did a couple years ago.
Sounds like a good idea for our RBG contest! Start designing, Doug! ;)

[Doug Sams]

Sounds like a good idea for our RBG contest! Start designing, Doug! http://forums.rocketshoppe.com/images/smilies/wink.gifYa know, I was thinking about that, but wasn't expecting the gauntlet quite so fast http://forums.rocketshoppe.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Doug

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[A Fish Named Wallyum]

Quite goony! I'll bet if you recovered the nose cone separately with a streamer the rest might just glide down making for even goonier flights ..... :cool:

{I had an original Estes Red Max that did that}

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Great. Now I'll have to try it. :D

[A Fish Named Wallyum]

Ahem... :D

BARCLONE Renegoon, from 2006: ORIGINAL POST (http://forums.rocketshoppe.com/showpost.php?p=7987&postcount=381)

I'm sure this version isn't original, but I haven't seen another version built anywhere...

Bill, let us know how good it flies. It should be about like the Thunder Goon...

Okay, I'll give you this one, but I'm not even going to look for the other two I have planned. ;)

[A Fish Named Wallyum]

If the intent is to have glide recovery, then significant transverse travel is the object of the exercise, isn't it? And then significant exercise is the object of the recovery. And so on.

So... a weighted nose cone, two large fins out of three or four, and voila!

And now, back to Bill's regularly scheduled topic.

It's all good. I'm not a topic Nazi. I've jackbooted too many in my life to even consider it. :D

[CPMcGraw]

Okay, I'll give you this one, but I'm not even going to look for the other two I have planned. ;)

Eez Okay, Bill. I had to go lookin' for this one myself... :D

[JRThro]

Great. Now I'll have to try it. :D
I may even have to, too.

Sorry for totally derailing your thread, Bill.

Or should I say "jackbooting"? :eek:

[A Fish Named Wallyum]

Eez Okay, Bill. I had to go lookin' for this one myself... :D

When I went looking through the catalogs on Ninfinger the other night, I couldn't BELIEVE that no one else had seen something this obvious. :o

[A Fish Named Wallyum]

I may even have to, too.

Sorry for totally derailing your thread, Bill.

The best part of it is that if it fails, I can blame Doug! :chuckle:

Actually the thread was kinda on life support once Bill cracked the code. :D Any talk is good talk, to my way of thinking. :cool:

[Doug Sams]

The best part of it is that if it fails, I can blame Doug! http://forums.rocketshoppe.com/images/smilies/chuckle.gif Where's the "shaking head in resignation" emoticon?

Doug

http://forums.rocketshoppe.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

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[snaquin]

Great. Now I'll have to try it. :D

I guess I'm guilty too for starting the derailment with my gliding Red Max. That really did happen though. Can't remember if it was a B or C engine flight but at ejection the shock cord burned through and the nose cone and chute came down with the rest of the rocket glided in. It was a really nice glide too! It was cool although I never actually tried to make that happen again!

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[JRThro]

Any talk is good talk... :cool:
So you took what you could get?

[foose4string]

So you took what you could get?

Any lovin' is good lovin'.

You ain't seen nothing yet! B....B...B...Baby...

[Doug Sams]

Any lovin' is good lovin'.

You ain't seen nothing yet! B....B...B...Baby...LOL! I almost posted the same thing!

Doug

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[A Fish Named Wallyum]

I guess I'm guilty too for starting the derailment with my gliding Red Max. That really did happen though. Can't remember if it was a B or C engine flight but at ejection the shock cord burned through and the nose cone and chute came down with the rest of the rocket glided in. It was a really nice glide too! It was cool although I never actually tried to make that happen again!

:)

The Centuri Scram Jet that I cloned in 2001 was a great backslider. MOF, it backslid its way into the upper branches of a tree on its last flight. It was the rocket most responsible for B6-4 Field getting its name. I waited for months for that cone to drop. I could see the streamer for a year or so, and I'd go check under the tree every time I was up that way. Now I can't remember which tree. :D

[A Fish Named Wallyum]

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l529/rmortis/006-15.jpg

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l529/rmortis/005-13.jpg

I still have white stars left over from my original Renegade clone from back in 2003 or 04. I've seen them recently, but I'm not just quite sure where. :o :rolleyes: Discerning eyes will notice something amiss with the decal. Yes, that's right. It's not quite stock. I was going to try my hand at cut and paste, making two O's out of the E's and using the N from another decal, but I decided to try it freehand instead. (Hey, it's a goony.) Turned out I liked the semi-pro look better than the pro look. :rolleyes:

[stefanj]

Ahhhhh, kawaii!

[A Fish Named Wallyum]

Now that I think about it, the decal would have been goonier if I'd done the whole thing freehand.
:rolleyes: I got it half right. Just like high school!