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marty_333
01-29-2012, 05:26 PM
All:

I'm interested in buying the various estes star wars kits since my two boys are huge star wars fans. I've noticed that there are various kit numbers for both the X-Wing and R2-D2. I was wondering if anyone had a difinitive list of the kits available and what the differences are between them. If you have a preference on a specific kit, that info would also be appreciated. Thanks.

Andrew

A Fish Named Wallyum
01-29-2012, 06:11 PM
1298 was the original. Very much a builder's kit and only available from 1978-80.
http://ninfinger.org/rockets/nostalgia/78est030.html
This page also shows the 1299 Tie Fighter and original 1301 R2D2.

1302 was the Maxi X-Wing. I've never built one of these.
http://ninfinger.org/rockets/nostalgia/78est044.html

1810 was the RTF version that's known the world over as potentially deadly. Probably best to keep away from these.

2103 was a 15th anniversary version of the original. More plastic and probably the best one to actually build and fly because it's easy to put together and thus less likely to be missed when it crashes.
http://ninfinger.org/rockets/nostalgia/94est42.html
As before, this also shows the 15th anniversary Tie Fighter and R2D2.

There was also an NCR version that you see occasionally. These sell for fairly big $$$.

1420 was a Photon Torpedo starter set. Kind of a dull, almost ready to fly quick build kit. I've never seen one.
http://www.ninfinger.org/rockets/nostalgia/78estcov.html

One of my favorites is the Death Star. This one is a big hit with the kids because of the way it recovers. http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/embankment/194/files/plan2143.html

The Phantom Menace also brought out a bunch of kits. The Naboo Fighter http://marina.fortunecity.com/tributary/177/files/plan1832.html, Y-Wing Fighterhttp://aneko.tripod.com/plan1821.html , Sith Infiltrator http://aneko.tripod.com/plan1829.html, and the Trade Federation Battleship http://aneko.tripod.com/plan1828.html. None of these are seen very often and I don't think they're very highly thought of.

mwtoelle
01-29-2012, 07:26 PM
Actually, the 1298 and 2103 X-wings are nearly identical. I bought and flew the 1298 version when it was released (1978) and those two kits are almost the same except for the production date. Also, the two regular T.I.E. kits (1299 and 2102) and the two 4" diameter R2-D2 kits (1301 and 2104) are also nearly identical as well.

A Fish Named Wallyum
01-29-2012, 08:39 PM
Actually, the 1298 and 2103 X-wings are nearly identical. I bought and flew the 1298 version when it was released (1978) and those two kits are almost the same except for the production date. Also, the two regular T.I.E. kits (1299 and 2102) and the two 4" diameter R2-D2 kits (1301 and 2104) are also nearly identical as well.
Really? My 1298 wings were equal parts plastic and balsa, with small tubes on the wingtips that the cannons, which were made with plastic parts and launch lugs, fit into. Neat how it goes together, but kind of a pain when all is said and done. My other one is all plastic except for the internals. Was there a third X-Wing that I missed?
Is your 1298 still flying? I wish I'd left mine alone and just flown it that way instead of trying to repaint it. :mad: :rolleyes:

PaulK
01-30-2012, 08:05 AM
IIRC, the 1490 is the all plastic 18mm X-Wing kit, whereas the 2103 was the balsa/plastic 15th anniversary re-issue. The all plastic version came in starter sets and bulk packs; I've never seen this version available as an individual kit.

As far as R2-D2 kits, go for the 18mm motor, 4" diameter kit. The 15th anniversary re-release, #2104, comes up often for auction, at a reasonable price. It flies great when modified for 24mm motors.

mwtoelle
01-30-2012, 06:00 PM
Really? My 1298 wings were equal parts plastic and balsa, with small tubes on the wingtips that the cannons, which were made with plastic parts and launch lugs, fit into. Neat how it goes together, but kind of a pain when all is said and done. My other one is all plastic except for the internals. Was there a third X-Wing that I missed?
Is your 1298 still flying? I wish I'd left mine alone and just flown it that way instead of trying to repaint it. :mad: :rolleyes:My 1298 got trashed several years ago. The wings on the 1298 and my unbuilt 2103 had balsa wings and fins. The all plastic version in that size was only found in the starter set issued in the 1990s. I have never seen that version sold separately.

kevinj
01-31-2012, 07:08 AM
Don't forget the 1821 Y Wing fighter.

kj

A Fish Named Wallyum
01-31-2012, 02:44 PM
Don't forget the 1821 Y Wing fighter.

kj
I mentioned it. Always thought that one was cool. Never saw one fly, though.

jeffyjeep
01-31-2012, 04:53 PM
What a coincidence! I'm working on a Death Star #2143 as we speak (or type, rather.) I've also verified that Testors rattle-can enamel is safe to use on foam and so is Weldwood Contact Cement (aka "snot".) I did a reaction test on one of the inside cavities where the streamer is housed during flight.

The color you see on the orb sections is gray primer #1237. I'll finish it with light aircraft gray #1233.

Hence:

jeffyjeep
01-31-2012, 05:01 PM
.....I also shot the same primer on this Estes F22 boost/glider that has two different kinds of foam construction: a high-density closed cell foam for the fuselage halves and a low-density, flexible, closed cell foam for the control surfaces. I used epoxy to construct this one--I was afraid to use anything out due to a possible material reaction!

Hence:

dlazarus6660
01-31-2012, 06:10 PM
.....I also shot the same primer on this Estes F22 boost/glider that has two different kinds of foam construction: a high-density closed cell foam for the fuselage halves and a low-density, flexible, closed cell foam for the control surfaces. I used epoxy to construct this one--I was afraid to use anything out due to a possible material reaction!

Hence:


I would love to have one of those!
I'm thinking of trying to convert the Estes Screaming Eagle F-15 into a glider.

CJU
02-01-2012, 08:35 AM
The kids *love* to see the Death Star and Tie Fighter fly... :D

Chris

jeffyjeep
02-01-2012, 08:49 AM
I would love to have one of those!
I'm thinking of trying to convert the Estes Screaming Eagle F-15 into a glider.
Do it! That would be great if you can make the Screaming Eagle glide! You may have to increase the wing surface area, add ailerons and elevators, yadda, yadda, yadda.

kevinj
02-01-2012, 08:58 AM
I mentioned it. Always thought that one was cool. Never saw one fly, though.

Ahh buried in the phantom menace block.. I think it (and a lot of the later models) came out in the 98 catalog, before all the Naboo and droid fighter stuff, so I sort of glossed over that section of your list.
http://www.ninfinger.org/rockets/catalogs/estes98/98EstesCat.pdf

I had one. Flew like a brick. Had a bad habit of ejecting the nose and leaving the plastic rear half to crash to the ground.

kj

jeffyjeep
02-01-2012, 01:15 PM
And now the foam Death Star orb is painted successfully! All that's left to do now is to attach the streamers to the inside mounts of each orb quarter, attach the parachute to the lifting body, and apply the decals (all one of them.)

and then it becomes proton torpedo fodder for the Rebel Alliance!

"Use the Schwartz!"

Hmm. I wish I'd known that Testors Enamel spray was foam-safe when I painted the NC of my Quest MLAS with that hard to use, water based, Krylon H2O spray latex. You'll notice that it doesn't quite match the white enamel I shot the BT with. I have some friends that paint cars professionally and they all agree that one of the hardest colors to match is white. Yeah, no s**t!

Hence:

jeffyjeep
02-01-2012, 03:51 PM
"That's no moon, it's a space station!" (or a really funky microphone)

A Fish Named Wallyum
02-01-2012, 04:00 PM
Ahh buried in the phantom menace block.. I think it (and a lot of the later models) came out in the 98 catalog, before all the Naboo and droid fighter stuff, so I sort of glossed over that section of your list.
http://www.ninfinger.org/rockets/catalogs/estes98/98EstesCat.pdf

I had one. Flew like a brick. Had a bad habit of ejecting the nose and leaving the plastic rear half to crash to the ground.

kj

Yeah, I was kinda "meandering" through the kits as they came to me. :D TBH, I'm not surprised that it wasn't much of a performer. Those all plastic toy birds all seem to have the same flight characteristics, eh? A re-kitters dream. :(

Feyd
02-01-2012, 04:57 PM
I'm interested in eventually trying to scratch-build a Y-Wing Fighter. It's been one of my favorites from Star Wars.

The Manta Bomber nosecone is pretty close to the Y-Wing cockpit section. Has anyone put together dimensions/tube sizes/etc for the rest of the model? I saw iealier in this thread that Estes had a Y-Wing fighter rocket but appaarently it didn't perform well.

I'd like to make one that replicates as much as possible the "look" of the original with the open-sided engine pods and everything.

Ideas? Suggestions? RockSim file? :D

dlazarus6660
02-01-2012, 06:03 PM
Check out the paper model forums. They should have a decent model you can borrow for your build.
I'm trying to build/design a paper X-wing fighter rocket.

MarmotFL
05-14-2012, 09:32 PM
I have an older R2-D2 kit somewhere in my parent's attic. I'm going up to visit them in a few weeks (and will ship my R2-D2 back along with the remnants of my collection). I remember when I built my R2-D2, the assembly went well, except that I didn't have any paint beyond silver -- thus, his head is a plain silver color.

The only sad note about my R2-D2 is that the transparent fin assembly got smashed many years ago -- I had left R2D2 partially assembled on the basement floor, and my brother rode his bike over the fins. Somehow, I'm the one who got in trouble (for leaving it on the floor).

I'm pretty sure finding a new set is a lost cause, but I'd love to be able to fly it sometime. Has anybody made DIY fins for R2-D2? Any tips?

mycrofte
05-15-2012, 06:19 AM
Check out the paper model forums. They should have a decent model you can borrow for your build.
I'm trying to build/design a paper X-wing fighter rocket.

There are several paper X-Wings out there. I have one but never started it.
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scigs30
05-15-2012, 10:42 AM
Here is my collection of Star Wars builds, I also have some of the RTF Star Wars rockets, but those are not my favorite. I think there are 3 left I have to build, the smaller R2-D2 all plastic, Death Star and the large plastic destroyer. I have plans drawn up for the Y-Wing, but keep in mind it is a rocket so the center section is round. The pods are open and it uses the Manta Bomber nose, and luckily it is back in production. If you like I can throw one together. Also I just posted a build here comparing the two X-Wings.

Leo
05-15-2012, 11:07 AM
The Estes Star Wars Deathstar is a must. Kids love it :D

http://www.leo.nutz.de/images/rockets/deathstar.jpg

scigs30
05-15-2012, 01:39 PM
Here is my Y-Wing Design, it uses the Estes nose cones, the pod nose cones can be bought from Semroc BNC-50J. I don't have Rocksim so I cannot tell you if it is stable or not, what do you think?